France doesn’t extradite if death penalty or bad shit like this is on the table. So there is a strong chance you wouldn’t get deported these days even as a “sans papier” (illégal alien). Is Canada not similar?
No. When there were large bunches of refuges trying to escape from camps from the middle east, Canada refused entry to any any male 16 years or older for asylum. Women and small children were okish, but males were right fucked and flat refused. And I think that’s still on the books yet today.
Canada, for all the “feel good” they have from others in the world, has as much history of cruelty to outsiders as any other western nation. And don’t look to closely into why the Geneva Convention exists today either. They just hide it better.
Well, young guys that are not immediately employable are gonna be super difficult to integrate, to be fair. It sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you have a solid way to help them and what country actually has that, really?
So if you have no skills, you need not apply. Just starve and die where you are or perhaps be killed outright by others. But the US is expected to take in 1000s of such people right?
See, you are no better than the US in many ways. You just have a better PR team…
He wasn’t in France at the time, though. Once you’re in, though, we’re not supposed to kick you out if we know you might get killed. This may actually have evolved in recent years, sadly.
But diplomacy is a bitch yeah.
I reckon it would be a very different answer if he made his request right now, though!
France doesn’t extradite if death penalty or bad shit like this is on the table. So there is a strong chance you wouldn’t get deported these days even as a “sans papier” (illégal alien). Is Canada not similar?
No. When there were large bunches of refuges trying to escape from camps from the middle east, Canada refused entry to any any male 16 years or older for asylum. Women and small children were okish, but males were right fucked and flat refused. And I think that’s still on the books yet today.
Canada, for all the “feel good” they have from others in the world, has as much history of cruelty to outsiders as any other western nation. And don’t look to closely into why the Geneva Convention exists today either. They just hide it better.
Well, young guys that are not immediately employable are gonna be super difficult to integrate, to be fair. It sounds like a recipe for disaster unless you have a solid way to help them and what country actually has that, really?
So if you have no skills, you need not apply. Just starve and die where you are or perhaps be killed outright by others. But the US is expected to take in 1000s of such people right?
See, you are no better than the US in many ways. You just have a better PR team…
France refused asylum to Snowden when the US thew their weight around
He wasn’t in France at the time, though. Once you’re in, though, we’re not supposed to kick you out if we know you might get killed. This may actually have evolved in recent years, sadly.
But diplomacy is a bitch yeah.
I reckon it would be a very different answer if he made his request right now, though!
Canada has the same policy. It was challenged and allowed to lapse by Harper, though, IIRC. I wouldn’t bet my life on it today.