I’m not sure what would awaken the American people from their slumber. It would likely have to be so transparent, so blatant, so obvious a betrayal, in order for it to penetrate their dreamland, that it would be too late.
The CDC let more than a million Americans die of COVID and Americans were still asking for the extremely lax measures that the state had taken to end so they could watch superhero movies in theaters again.
I have friends who are mad at me and will probably avoid socializing with me because I said he wasn’t doing anything but wasting time and money if his speech isn’t followed up by anything actionable. My comments about him apparently are undermining activists too.
That’s the second time I’ve hurt a friendship by criticizing a Democrat senator in the last year. Never mattered to them when it was Republicans I was criticizing.
Ask them why they didn’t object to this unanimous consent on another trump appointee literally 1 minute after bookers speech end? Why didn’t booker object? What was all the talk for if they gave up the vary next opportunity to stall Trump?
As much as I appreciate this response, sharing it won’t change anything with them. The two people this has affected are the two most steadfast liberals I’ve ever known. They are completely bought into the ideology and won’t consider any alternative. My questioning angers them because liberalism is a big part of their ego, so to criticize their beliefs is to criticize their person.
I guess what bothers me more is that these are the boundaries that matter to them in a relationship. They don’t want discussion, they don’t want to understand others, they want unwavering adherence to their chosen ideology and will ostracize you if you don’t give them that.
My questioning angers them because liberalism is a big part of their ego, so to criticize their beliefs is to criticize their person.
I know this too. I had friends this year distance themselves from me for the same reason.
I was told “don’t be a stranger” which is ironic because these people had only been a stranger to me for several years. It was always up to me to check in and be included, rarely the other way around.
Lol. Not at all. And not sure how it came off like that.
What I mean is that Americans are extremely ignorant about the way their system works. And they don’t really have an excuse. Information is out there and available. But they are willing to hate every poc, every non cis person etc. due to their ignorance and it’s going to screw them over because while they focus on that the ruling class accumulates wealth. So I am reaching the point where don’t feel bad for what’s coming to Americans. I can’t
And the fact they are excited by completely substanceless acts of resistance like this speech. It’s pathetic. Americans are pathetic
“Information is out there” is really missing the point of like, the entire system surrounding how people find and learn information. How the fuck are they going to know what’s Real information and what’s just made up bullshit?
Part of why everything is so turbo fucked is because there is no authority, there is no “factual” information, and everybody is on some level aware of that but the best they can do is seek out information sources that sound factual, even if they’re not, and generally as a result just find new ways to reinforce their pre existing biases
Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones. The result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population. Moreover, under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.
It’s not impossible for me though because i’m just built different
Yeah I know this but I’m also less forgiving of people falling for propaganda now. Maybe I’m just mentally exhausted.
Like with my friends when capitalism comes up and they say the problem is late stage capitalism and not capitalism… Like give me a break. This is not a serious discussion. Climate change is the result of capitalism. A human extinction level threat is because of capitalism and we’re still debating whether capitalism is the correct system. And this is just one example. On the relevant topic, the Dems actions have directly led to the current political environment in the US. How are people still praising them for a nothing act. Give me a break. I’m not a misanthrope. I don’t believe humanity is inherently evil or destined for failure. That’s liberal talk but it is super frustrating when capital has such complete control of the information and narrative and people don’t have slightest mental pushback. In the case of Booker’s speech the only response should be to tell Democrats to fuck off. Start a third party and if you can’t get power take solace in the fact that the Republicans will take apart the American genocide machine due to their insatiable greed.
Lol. Not at all. And not sure how it came off like that.
Ok good, , I think it was just the usage of “you” heh, my brain wasn’t reading it as a broader usage of “you”.
But I agree. I don’t think our institutions do anything to instill continued learning or an instinct to do more in-depth investigations in people. They also set the bar so fucking low that I’m sure many people wouldn’t even know what to look up because they lack the vocabulary to do so. Total lack of any real civics courses that don’t simply have you perform rote memorization of the structures of the US federal government. That’s all by design, though, and that’s not some conspiracy either. Quoting Roger A. Freeman, former adviser to President Nixon and then adviser to Ronald Reagan as Governor of California:
We are in danger of producing an educated proletariat. That’s dynamite! We have to be selective on who we allow to go through [the higher education system.] If not we will have a large number of highly trained and unemployed people. That’s what happened in Germany. I saw it happen.
An educated working class, is a dangerous working class.
Americans as a whole aren’t proactive. We are reactive. We wait until the thing happens and then use it as an excuse to consolidate power. Police don’t prevent crime, they punish it. Politicians never head off an upcoming problem, they just stand back and fundraise. Parents don’t often lead by example or teach good manners in a positive way, they react and punish bad behavior.
Rewards are a buy off and not a proper “attaboy”. Sometimes rewards are just to get people to shut the fuck up
I’m not sure what would awaken the American people from their slumber. It would likely have to be so transparent, so blatant, so obvious a betrayal, in order for it to penetrate their dreamland, that it would be too late.
building 7 just did that, passports literally fell out the sky, and Americans sent their kids to curb stomp children in Afghanistan over it
The CDC let more than a million Americans die of COVID and Americans were still asking for the extremely lax measures that the state had taken to end so they could watch superhero movies in theaters again.
I have friends who are mad at me and will probably avoid socializing with me because I said he wasn’t doing anything but wasting time and money if his speech isn’t followed up by anything actionable. My comments about him apparently are undermining activists too.
That’s the second time I’ve hurt a friendship by criticizing a Democrat senator in the last year. Never mattered to them when it was Republicans I was criticizing.
The US deserves everything coming to it.
Show them this: https://youtube.com/watch?v=E5vsr2XhHbI
Ask them why they didn’t object to this unanimous consent on another trump appointee literally 1 minute after bookers speech end? Why didn’t booker object? What was all the talk for if they gave up the vary next opportunity to stall Trump?
As much as I appreciate this response, sharing it won’t change anything with them. The two people this has affected are the two most steadfast liberals I’ve ever known. They are completely bought into the ideology and won’t consider any alternative. My questioning angers them because liberalism is a big part of their ego, so to criticize their beliefs is to criticize their person.
I guess what bothers me more is that these are the boundaries that matter to them in a relationship. They don’t want discussion, they don’t want to understand others, they want unwavering adherence to their chosen ideology and will ostracize you if you don’t give them that.
I know this too. I had friends this year distance themselves from me for the same reason.
I was told “don’t be a stranger” which is ironic because these people had only been a stranger to me for several years. It was always up to me to check in and be included, rarely the other way around.
c’est la vie
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Yeah and that level of ignorance is kind of on you. So do I have to feel bad for you? I don’t think so and I don’t.
This feels hostile towards me specifically, and I’m unsure if that’s your intention.
Lol. Not at all. And not sure how it came off like that.
What I mean is that Americans are extremely ignorant about the way their system works. And they don’t really have an excuse. Information is out there and available. But they are willing to hate every poc, every non cis person etc. due to their ignorance and it’s going to screw them over because while they focus on that the ruling class accumulates wealth. So I am reaching the point where don’t feel bad for what’s coming to Americans. I can’t
And the fact they are excited by completely substanceless acts of resistance like this speech. It’s pathetic. Americans are pathetic
Second person callouts when talking about a third party are still read as second person callouts.
I guess it needed quotation marks ?
If you had used “them” it would have been more clear.
“Yeah and that level of ignorance is kind of on them. So do I have to feel bad for them? I don’t think so and I don’t.”
“Information is out there” is really missing the point of like, the entire system surrounding how people find and learn information. How the fuck are they going to know what’s Real information and what’s just made up bullshit?
Part of why everything is so turbo fucked is because there is no authority, there is no “factual” information, and everybody is on some level aware of that but the best they can do is seek out information sources that sound factual, even if they’re not, and generally as a result just find new ways to reinforce their pre existing biases
It’s not impossible for me though because i’m just built different
Yeah I know this but I’m also less forgiving of people falling for propaganda now. Maybe I’m just mentally exhausted.
Like with my friends when capitalism comes up and they say the problem is late stage capitalism and not capitalism… Like give me a break. This is not a serious discussion. Climate change is the result of capitalism. A human extinction level threat is because of capitalism and we’re still debating whether capitalism is the correct system. And this is just one example. On the relevant topic, the Dems actions have directly led to the current political environment in the US. How are people still praising them for a nothing act. Give me a break. I’m not a misanthrope. I don’t believe humanity is inherently evil or destined for failure. That’s liberal talk but it is super frustrating when capital has such complete control of the information and narrative and people don’t have slightest mental pushback. In the case of Booker’s speech the only response should be to tell Democrats to fuck off. Start a third party and if you can’t get power take solace in the fact that the Republicans will take apart the American genocide machine due to their insatiable greed.
Is that quoted text from Red Sails?
It’s Albert Einstein’s why socialism essay
Total surprise for me: Turns out it’s Albert Einstein, lol. From his essay “Why Socialism?”
Ok good,
, I think it was just the usage of “you” heh, my brain wasn’t reading it as a broader usage of “you”.
But I agree. I don’t think our institutions do anything to instill continued learning or an instinct to do more in-depth investigations in people. They also set the bar so fucking low that I’m sure many people wouldn’t even know what to look up because they lack the vocabulary to do so. Total lack of any real civics courses that don’t simply have you perform rote memorization of the structures of the US federal government. That’s all by design, though, and that’s not some conspiracy either. Quoting Roger A. Freeman, former adviser to President Nixon and then adviser to Ronald Reagan as Governor of California:
An educated working class, is a dangerous working class.
A highly educated and unemployed proletariat leads to Nazi Germany?
That doesn’t make any sense but the guy has to demonize education as Nazistic in order to make it sell among the then uneducated proletariat.
Americans as a whole aren’t proactive. We are reactive. We wait until the thing happens and then use it as an excuse to consolidate power. Police don’t prevent crime, they punish it. Politicians never head off an upcoming problem, they just stand back and fundraise. Parents don’t often lead by example or teach good manners in a positive way, they react and punish bad behavior.
Rewards are a buy off and not a proper “attaboy”. Sometimes rewards are just to get people to shut the fuck up