- cross-posted to:
- MapleResistance@lemmy.ca
- cross-posted to:
- MapleResistance@lemmy.ca
If U.S. President Donald Trump fails in his stated goal of annexing Canada through economic force, what would happen if he ordered the world’s most powerful military to invade?
Some experts and academics say it’s a notion too preposterous to even contemplate. But Aisha Ahmad isn’t one of them.
“When you look at the power (imbalance) between the U.S. and Canada, an invasion would immediately result in the defeat of the Canadian Armed Forces,” said the University of Toronto political science professor, who last month published an essay on the subject in The Conversation.
“But a conventional military victory is not the end of this story. It’s just the beginning.”
You must log in or # to comment.
It would cause a civil war within US itself.
I feel like this has to be the case. America is a disaster but I cannot fathom the populace or even the military being complacent as they march over the border.
Look up Kent state shootings. They fired on their own. The people in the military are maybe there for an education but mainly to get paid and some to shoot people. They’ll have no issue attacking us at all.
If it comes to that, those that would have an issue will have left on their own or been purged by that point.
The modern US hasn’t fought a war with someone right next door, who looks and talks like them. Not only would it be hard to hold captured cities, but I think many Canadian fighters would walk across that massive unsecured border and start fucking up US resources like electrical stations, water supplies, subway systems, internet backbones, government buildings, . It is super easy to buy guns and ammo in the US, bombs are not hard to make. We would have a fair amount of local support as well.
We Canadians could just walk around the US in public and you’ve never know it.
Blue states won’t stand for it either, the US will have to deal with the double threat of saboteurs and defectors
Blue states understand that you can’t just go and TAKE a country’s sovereignty, and that trying to do so sets a dangerous precedent.
Red states seem to forget that it goes both ways. Another country can try to TAKE the US (e.g., Russia, china).
Red states seem to forget that they would be furious if another country tried to invade the US. They fail to look in the mirror.
Honestly you would have to go county by county. As someone from MN, there are rural areas that vote red and would probably be for war with canada if it came down to it.
Then cities and people in blue counties would probably be the opposite.
While true, I think people would easily drive a few counties to sabotage an invasion force, which blurs the map. I would consider the state level about even
There would also be civilian targets. Those huge retirement towns filled with MAGA boomers in Florida - the ones where they drive golf carts around - those will burn to the ground.
Not to mention so very many of the Americans in the states that border Canada would probably be more than willing to aid the Canadian efforts.
It’s stupid because a lot of Americans have families in Canada and some Americans actually live in Canada and loads of American businesses have offices and branches in Canada so they’d literally be bombing themselves.
Sabotaging the Canadian power stations that send power to the Eastern Seaboard would be a start.
Canadians were known as the most ruthless wartime force. I will bring that back to protect my daughters right to her body. Our neighbour should never mistake kindness for weakness
It would another Vietnam or Afghanistan. They’d invade, kill a few thousand maybe million people, mire around, and then retreat again with their funds drained and thousands of crippled veterans with PTSD.
vietnam but the viet cong can drive to your house
And the Viet Cong look exactly like the Americans this time around. Good luck!
Well they looked like the south Vietnamese, so that really was a problem.
There would also be an internal insurgence south of the border to support the canucks, especially along the border states.
Don’t forget the “mission accomplished” picture while they retreat.
It would be way worse than Vietnam or Afghanistan. Both countries would be devastated and it could spark world war three or a second american civil war.
But a few newly enriched white dudes so 👌
decades long is an understatement. unless they mean the US itself will collapse
Maybe not collapse, but they sure as hell won’t ‘win’.
In a recent article published in The Atlantic magazine, (American military historian Eliot) Cohen used a tongue-in-cheek approach to warn Americans against invading Canada, pointing out that previous attempts led to dismal results.
His review of American military failures starts in 1775, when U.S. troops invaded Quebec, where they distributed pamphlets — translated into French — awkwardly declaring: “You have been conquered into liberty.” The campaign ended in disastrous defeat for the American Continental Army in December 1775.
During the War of 1812, former U.S. president Thomas Jefferson said conquering Canada was “a mere matter of marching.”
“This was incorrect,” Cohen wrote. “The United States launched eight or nine invasions of Canada during the War of 1812, winning only one fruitless battle. The rest of the time, it got walloped.”
There was a certain light colored house that got lit on fire by retaliatory forces back in 1812.
This being something to talk about is fucking incredible.
They’ve gone completely off.
I would join the canadian insurgents. Fuck this government
I don’t know why everyone assumes the use of military force to annex Canada would take the form of a massive conventional invasion. Hybrid warfare approaches like spreading misinformation, covert ops, stirring up local pro-American militias, etc. could do 95% of the work, without the sort of overt violence that generates insurgencies.
It’s very possible to defend against hybrid threats, but only if we recognize the threat exists instead of assuming a US invasion would necessarily be a catastrophic strategic blunder.
I would expect American insurgents supporting our former Canadian allies and friends.
I know I would.
Canadians will walk amongst their invaders. They wont be safe.
It’d be like a remake of Red Dawn but with the cast of Letterkenny.
“Give yer balls a tug, ya MAGAt bastard!!” lol
Because going to war with people who like the cold is always a good idea.
Smh
I can’t believe this is even being contemplated.
Elbows Up!
Come on USA : Invade Canada during winter and kneel under the barrage of exploding hockey pocks.
Do they mean an insurgence comprised of Canadians or US folk…? Both maybe.
Definitely both.
If conservatives ever get insane enough to actually try anything like that, understand that a fair amount of that hypothetical insurgency will be happening on the American side of the border as well. A lot of people who live near the border have a lot of Canadian ties. They would effectively consider any military action taken against Canada to be an attack on them.
Not just near the border, it’s throughout the entire US. Same goes for Mexico
