• tauren@lemm.ee
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    28 minutes ago

    Source: General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

    Lol.

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        Russia? Not as far as I can tell. They seem to lose 1-1.5k people a day to lose ground. Ukraine has more tanks than the start of the war, and more of their own land back.

        I think the most critical thing is manpower. AFAIK we’re not sure how many Ukrainian soldiers are left (I couldn’t find anything if you do please link it).

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    Let’s just remember Putin does have a sense of humor. Sending families of dead soldiers lost in what the world is calling a meat grinder literal meat grinders as presents is extremely funny in a way it absolutely shouldn’t be.

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    The fucking Muscovites can continue to fertilize the earth. The loss of troops and material means nothing to the Russians. The asswipes will continue to use mass assaults until the soldiers or the public revolts. Until then, Fuck Russia and US Reichwingers.

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      They’re using money in lieu of skill. Eventually they’ll run out if it.

      Then no more high salary for the Russian soldier – and consequently, no more soldiers.

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        High salary? I thought at this point most of their fighting force is getting paid in “Not going back to that gulag for those heinous things you did to people back home.”

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    Let them keep dying, it’s pretty obvious Russias weak if it wasn’t for the Nukes the rest of Europe would just pull an Iraq on them. I feel Russias real threat is probably China though they have a lot of land and it’s ripe for the taking.

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    They throw their young generations into the meat grinder just to control resources. Putin couldn’t find a way to pivot to new domestic products so now people get to die.

    Fight war, not wars.

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      5 hours ago

      does ukraine actually have resources? russia is gigantic what could they possibly need so badly

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        Ukraine has lots of valuable natural resources, but Russia has much more of everything. The biggest reason for the invasion is most likely that Putin could not let a “brother nation” prosper and drift towards Europe and being a functioning democracy.

        Russia’s population might get wild ideas if they saw that their Ukrainian cousins’ standard of living starts to rise rapidly while they have to endure living under a fascist dictator. And substandard and underdeveloped infrastructure, due to the rampant corruption and a government who doesn’t give a shit about the areas outside the larger cities.

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          It’s that but (playing devil’s advocate for a second) Russia “traditionally” had a huge buffer between Moscow and the evil west. If Ukraine goes European and -worse- NATO, then that evil west with their evil ideas like freedom and democracy is suddenly quite close to Moscow’s doorstep.

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            Not particularly, the problem is that Russia is stupid and would rather try to annex Ukraine rather than invest time and resources into the development of Siberia. Also they don’t want to actually improve things just make them worse.

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                Well its either that or collapse, problem with Russia though is that the various ethnic and political groups that could’ve collapsed it easily were more or less wiped out during the holodomor. Specifically the ones in Siberia and the far east.

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        I thought it was about access to that gasline without Ukraine intervention, but then they blew it up or something, soooo…nothing? Baby boy Putin has been anti-Ukraine for a decade at least. Seems to be about being anti-NATO and for “political power”, but I doubt Putin will gain any if they end up winning against Ukraine.

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    This is the reality of war. Millions of people die fighting over invisible lines on the map

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      This isn’t a war of lines on the map, really. The Russia’s goal is the end of Ukrainians as a nation. And breaking NATO’s article 5.

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    Russian has been losing and the economy is collapsing since 2018 according to these news. Every other week I see something like this. Yet we dont see them retreating.

    900k is more than 50% of there forces according to wikipedia that list 1.5 millions.

    I highly doubt the accuracy of these news reports.

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      It is collapsing. Some people have interpreted the news as the economy being at the brink of an immediate collapse, but articles I have read have talked consistently of end of 2025/early 2026.

      The difference is, in 2022 and 2023 it was assumed that once it becomes clear that the Russia’s economy collapsing will be inevitable unless they immediately end the war, they would indeed end it. Now it’s clear that they will indeed go to the very end, allowing their economy to collapse and then the war ending as a consequence of that.

      So, yes, it was predicted that the economy will collapse by 2026, and the war would end in 2022 or 2023 to avoid that. But, the timetable of the actual collapse has not changed. Or, at least not the timetables I’ve been seeing.

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      5 hours ago

      Their losses are clearly significant enough to bring a foreign army (North Koreans) to replenish their forces. Maybe not 50% but I don’t think it’s that far off.

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        I have not heard of another batch of NK soldiers after the initial 12000. There are talks about them possibly sending another 12000.

        With the Russia losing 1300 soldiers per day as dead and wounded, the NK troops cover 10(+ maybe another 10?) days worth soldiers.

        The Russian army is shrinking by about 15 000 soldiers per month. That was canceled out by NK troops for one month once, and possibly another one soon.

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      I travel a lot, both for work and leisure, and wherever there’s no travel restrictions for Russians, like Thailand, UAE, or Egypt, it’s simply overrun with Russian tourists. And they’re rich, too, with the latest iPhones, Apple Watches and all the other fashion brands.

      As much as I’d like to see l say that Russia is feeling the impact of this war, empirically, I can’t say that it seems that way.

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        Classism is present in Russia too.

        I watched a couple of YouTube videos from a normal guy who lives in Russia talking about what it was actually like to live in Russia around the time that Tucker Carlson did that weird state visit and he peeled back a layer of intentional propaganda that the American journalist was spreading - that Russians are living in some kind of luxury paradise. Sure, everything costs less over there, but people are also paid a lot less too. If you’re working class, it’s hard to afford enough food to put on the table sometimes. The rich, however, are not hurting for anything and a lot of big brand labels that said they would exit Russia just rebranded themselves or quietly re-entered the market after all the commotion about the war died down.

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        The richest people don’t care about the war, if groceries go up 25% that barely makes a dent. You won’t see the people who are actually suffering from this being tourists.

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    6 hours ago

    -900k orcs HAHA, should be more

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      I’m not even Russian and I’m offended. Most of these people who died likely didn’t even want to fight, but we’re drafted anyway. Blame the oligarchy, not the people who were forced to participate.

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        Most of these people who died likely didn’t even want to fight, but we’re drafted anyway. Blame the oligarchy, not the people who were forced to participate

        Had my father been drafted for 'nam his plan was to use his rifle to kill as many officers as possible before himself, rather than fight for the US in that war. I had the same plan in the unlikely event I was drafted for something, too

        Maybe the Russians could have a backbone like that, yeah? They’re being given tools of war and willingly go off to die without a fight? Actually pathetic, and not worth sympathy

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        the Russian law prohibits using drafted conscripts in a war like this. While that law is largely ignored, it goes have the effect that the Russia hires soldiers mainly through giving them an enormous salary: In rural areas a factory worker might get a monthly salary of around 70 € per month. As a soldier you get 2000 € per month, which is about 70 € per day!

        That also means, the soldiers are in it because they have decided they want to do they in order to give a less poor life for their family. Killing others’ children in order to feed theirs better.

        A very small fraction of the soldiers you see die have come to the front against their will.

        Therefore: Roaches, not orcs.

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        Latest mobilization in russia: 133 000

        New contracted service in the russian army forces in 2024: 450 000

        “most”…

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      Poor person gets brainwashed, coerced and joins military to earn money.

      “Haha, orc!!! They all deserve to die a pigs death!!”

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        There is no place for sympathy to Russians, most of them support Putin. They aren’t brainwashed and most are aware of the situation and do nothing.

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          A lot of Americans support Trump or have no willingness to do anything about his facism.

          A lot of Germans support Afd.

          A lot of french support le pen.

          A lot of British folks support reform and Tommy robinson.

          So, do all the people from these countries also not deserve any sympathy? You know the ones who can’t do anything about who rules over them? Because they are too busy bogged down in trying to make a living?

          Do nothing

          How do you expect the regular russian to rise up against putin when they can barely can provide anything for their family? But also, When their only source of truth has been the state media, ofcourse it’s brainwashing.

          Americans are not doing anything about the horrific things trump is doing and is that okay? Should we start calling Americans burger pigs and paint them all as racist caricatures of fat blonde pigs?

          At least don’t dehumanise the Russians. There are plenty who hate what’s happening and have died to free their country.

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      This number might count soldiers several times. If a soldier gets injured and becomes a casualty, they can heal up and then serve again. So the same soldier could be injured and recover three times and then be killed. That would make hm a causally four times.

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      The Oryx numbers at least are not underestimated – each single number has a photo to prove it. And the numbers published by ZSU always rise and descend hand-in-hand with those of Oryx – there seems to be a more or less fixed coefficient that you can convert the numbers back and forth.

      Also, because the ZSU data is published before that of Oryx, it must be based on actual data. Then, the question is: what is the coefficient between reality and these numbers we keep seeing in these brown images. We have got a couple of leaks from the Russia, and they have been almost precisely the same as the data published by ZSU. Therefore, the coefficient is apparently 1.

      I find it very surprising that the ZSU numbers are not inflated, but when trying to find evidence on how much they are inflated, I’ve only found evidence of them actually being as precisely correct as possible.

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    The world allowing the few to massacre the many for their personal gain has to be what we reject in the 21st century. We need to start arresting and trying every war monger for the murders they are.

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      Losses include casualties, where a combatant is just injured. That might be losing a limb, but in many cases its much less severe and they recover and return to fighting. 3 years is plenty of recovery time, enough for the same person to have been multiple casualties.

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    Lost, huh?

    Does that mean casualties? As in, not necessarily deaths?

    Russia has lost 1,330 soldiers killed and wounded over the past day alone

    I would assume the answer is ‘yes.’

    Fuck I hate the propaganda reporting on both sides.

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      A bit over one third of these losses are deaths.

      Typically in wars it’s about one sixth, and that is also approximately Ukraine’s ratio as well. For the Russia the number is very different because they don’t care for their wounded – many of the wounded are converted to dead through inexistence of medical care.

      So, 900 000 Russian losses equals a bit over 300 000 dead orcs/roaches/whateveryoucallthem.

      The thing is, for the war it doesn’t really have much meaning whether the loss is through death or a serious wound. It’s one soldier less all the same.

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        The thing is, for the war it doesn’t really have much meaning whether the loss is through death or a serious wound.

        Not true. A soldier that’s killed isn’t going back home to his family. He’ll never have kids. He’ll never contribute to the economy ever again.

        Trying to say kills don’t matter in a war is retarded.

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      Including wounded is the official definition of lost, always been. No need to call propaganda, it simply how is defined.

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        “Russia suffered x casualties in y time.”

        Just like prices ending in .99, a significant amount of useful idiots are going to look at the word “lost” and assume it means killed.

        That’s how propaganda works and it shouldn’t have to be spelled out for you.

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          Lost means “not able to fight”. If they lose a leg, they might be alive, but not very useful in the battlefield. Therefore the soldier, not the human, is lost.

          Most of it it’s because in military setting, those two are equivalent, sine the only thing they care is about how many abled bodies they have available for the meat grinder.

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            Just like prices ending in .99, a significant amount of useful idiots are going to look at the word “lost” and assume it means killed.

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    I’m going against the grain here, but I just think this is really sad. A lot of these people will have been decent people, loved by decent people and some have been brainwashed. It’s a horrible, terrible human cost cos of a dictator