• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    Delete Elon and Trump from existence and nothing will get better.

    Why?

    Because Americans are dumb as fuck and they’ll still be dumb as fuck when and if those two are gone.

    I’m old enough to have seen the same pattern multiple times. Republican leadership fails spectacularly, even pissing off many conservatives in the process. But as soon as the next cycle begins, those conservatives are back onboard voting for the absolute shittiest candidates.

    Because to them an actual, literal dictator is better than a Democrat as president.

    Our society is circling the toilet and it almost certainly won’t get better within our lifetimes. Prepare yourselves for that.

  • LovableSidekick@lemmy.world
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    If you’re Republican it’s simple:

    1. A tariff is Trump’s special magic that saves you from foreigners and wokeness, and MexiCanada pays for it.
    2. Stuff costs more at the store because the Biden Crime Family hurt the economy so bad, not even Trump can fix it right away. In fact it might even take more than 4 years, so we better keep him in office forever.
  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Even if it were a tax paid by foreign companies, what difference does it make? They would just increase the prices the goods are sold at.

    So, lets say, a smartphone that is priced at $1000:

    With the 20% tariff in place:

    If the Chinese conpanies pay the $200 per device, they just sell each phone at $1200 to the US importer.

    If the US importers pay the $200 per device, similarily, they would tack on the $200 (on top of the usual markups), making it $1200 per phone.

    There is zero difference, the end consumer always foots the bill.

    This is so simple to understand, how are people this stupid

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      Not necessarily: the company can choose to absorb part or all the tariff, since the demand would drop at the higher price anyway, and they might make more overall profit at a lower margin per item. But generally yes, most of the cost will be passed on to the consumer and prices will increase on average.

      Example:

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      The only difference would be that money we spent would be going to the companies instead of the government. Tarrifs are a government putting taxes on their people to strangle industries in other countries. In both scenarios we pay the same, but the flow of money is different

  • Rekorse@sh.itjust.works
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    Ive never been opposed to learning through experience rather than what others tell you. Dont trust anything you can’t verify yourself.

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    Plot twist: the person writing this is President Musk and the employee he’s referring to is Trump.

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    didn’t understand why he was told the other countries pay the tariffs

    that’s easy: you were willing to vote for a guy who lied over 30 thousand times in his first term so he realized you’re a fucking idiot and he could say anything without you thinking even half a second about it.

    WHAT’S THE POINT OF EXPORTING SHIT YOU IDIOT WHY WOULD A COUNTRY DO IT IF THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT

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      They willing pay the extra funbucks tariff monies for the privilege and honor of shipping it to America (at cost) on a chance some red-hatted half-wit will waste it.

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      WHAT’S THE POINT OF EXPORTING SHIT YOU IDIOT WHY WOULD A COUNTRY DO IT IF THEY HAD TO PAY FOR IT

      Yeah this is grade school level reasoning telling you that it obviously doesn’t work that way.

      A country’s aluminum exports for example aren’t extra aluminum they want to get rid of because it’s junking up their basements and America is 1800-got-junk taking it off their hands at cost. It’s a fucking series of material production companies in a different country. They too are based on capitalism and they too require profits in order to function.

  • fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
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    And the people who voted for the orangetard will still be shafted by him and his mafia yet will continue to blame “obiden” for their economic woes. 🥱

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    literally googling tariffs, brings you to a government page that lists tariffs, duties, and taxes under the same fucking definition.

    How people like this DO NOT understand this shit, is beyond me. I can respect the humility in changing your position after being that stupid though, please, due your due diligence before mindlessly repeating the shit other people tell you, so you don’t look stupid.

  • ArxCyberwolf@lemmy.ca
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    “Doing your own research” means watching one or two YouTube videos or Facebook posts as far as these people are concerned. No thought for themselves, just parrot what you hear.

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      I don’t understand why this even needs to be researched. I’m no economist and I don’t know much about tariffs, but: costs more to get product to me for any reason = product costs me more. When has that ever not been the case? What am I missing?

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        Hey, you have to factor in things like market capture! They could be operating entirely at a loss just to ensure no other competitor can operate in the same market.

        (/s because duh more cost = more price)

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    I would like to ask them what happens when taffis are increased to 100%? Does that mean producers are giving stuff for free?

    And then what happen when the tarris are at 200%? Do they have to send stuff for free and pay on top of that?

    One more thing - don’t tell them they are wrong. Tell them they were lied to

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    Doing your own research or, you know, trust the experts? There’s no way I will get deep enough into virology to get a proper grasp if I need a vaccination. But I for sure won’t trust a random space Karen or brainworm Jimmy.

  • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    Real answer is in the last line there. If 60% of people we’re capable of doing their own research (and arriving at the correct answer) then we wouldn’t have anti-vaxers, flat-earthers and non-billionaire/non-bigot/non-christian nationalist republicans.

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      The problem lies where they “find” their “research” when they see the answer they want to see on social media rather than an actual study or any factual references.

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    “He was told the other countries pay the tariffs”, by a bunch of liars and he believed the liars.

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      The real hard part is it’s a partial truth.

      The sellers do pay the tariffs, they just don’t talk about what that does to the prices.

      The other problem is it cuts both ways, and a number of the idiots will say as long as you’re hurting them too, fine.

      And then we have retaliatory tariffs, which also cut both ways.

      IMHO, our biggest issue is we’ve been using cheap Chinese products and labor as a crutch instead of increasing wages. They’ve been able to cut down wages because Amazon, Temu and Shein have been providing products WAY WAY under marketable US made prices.