Absolutely useless

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    I love how these conversations happen many times every session, but then campaign time comes and everyone calls me a Russian asset for reminding people of what the “Blue No Matter Who” mentality gets you.

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      The time to have that conversation is before and during the primaries. After that, it’s not a worthwhile conversation.

      The message isn’t the issue, your timing is.

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        How long do I have to wait for this to work? It’s been 25 years of voting blue no matter who and Republicans are just getting more and more power. When do we get to say that’s a failed strategy? When there’s no elections anymore or when there’s only one party on the ballot?

        Oh, wait, that happens a ton already because Democrats are fucking useless. Three seats on my 2024 ballot had Republicans running unopposed.

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        LOL

        What primaries? The Democrats invented superdelegates to subvert democracy in the primary process, and then argued in court in Florida that it was their right to do so when they were sued for it.

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          Good point. Better to do nothing then. Give up.

          Or get more involved in the only party with a chance and change them from the inside?

          No, that sounds like work. Forget it.

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            It is a good point, and I’m not advocating for doing nothing, just acknowledging that change via the Democrats is impossible. Unless you’ve been asleep for 40 years, you’re well aware that real, meaningful change is impossible in this party duopoly, and nothing underscores that more than running a publicly brain-dead man and the entire “progressive” party apparatus lining up behind him in order to suit his fragile, stupid ego.

            What I advocate for is doing good with one’s own two hands, because that’s always possible. Be willing to pick up dog shit even if it’s not yours. When someone in your building asks for a favor, be generous with your time. When ICE comes knocking, and they will, find that maybe you have difficulty remembering things. (And if you really want to underscore how shitty the Democrats are, remember that Tom Homan was also Obama’s guy.)

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              I agree. But my point is that the Democrats are the only tool we have at the moment within the government.

              We have plenty of tools outside of the government, and you’re 100% right that we should use those as well.

              But let’s not throw out the one tool we have inside the government. Let’s improve it so it’s useful.

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                That’s the thing, we don’t.

                The Democrats in Washington do not give a fuck about you, me, our families, or anyone else. They exist to do performative things and make nice speeches, then go vote in a manner that can be charitably called conservative but more often enables fascism. For example, remember when they did their nice little stunt kneeling in Congress with their African wear? Those same Democrats linked up behind Biden when he wanted to militarize the police even more.

                The only power you or I have is local unless you’re willing to commit an extraordinary act of vigilantism or you’re a billionaire. That’s it.

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                Do we have Democrats as a tool inside the government? Are you sure they aren’t another of the oligarchs’ tools?

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                  I can tell you’ve never had to sweep or shovel with something when half the haft is gone. Or tear the lid off a garbage can because the mechanism to lift the lid stopped working.

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                    That’s what I’ve always had to work with when it comes to representatives in this country. It’s cuz you and your neo liberal Democratic friends think the rest of us don’t deserve working equipment. Only your Rich donors do.

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      Liberals are, for all their talk, in a Stockholm Syndrome kind of love with the DNC. BlueMAGA is some combination of a death cult and an abusive relationship.

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            So your criticism of liberals is… they vote for the party the most closely aligns with their views? And this is somehow analogous to death cults and MAGA extremism?

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              It doesn’t align with their views; that’s the whole problem. Liberals carry water for the DNC even though they hate the nonsense it does as much as everyone else. At least I don’t think I’ve seen anyone around here say that Biden supporting genocide* or not going after price gouging were good things. It’s always excuses, “lesser” evils and false dichotomies to make sure the Democrats are always just good enough to not throw aside. That’s why I likened it to the Stockholm Syndrome.

              *well Zionists think so but screw them

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                That’s still not analogous to MAGA extremism, Democrats have much more favorable social policies, which is what most Americans care about. Voting for the party that does more about the values you care about is not a death cult unless you think basic LGBT rights are a death cult.