• Rivalarrival
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    8 hours ago

    By shit work i mean unskilled labour basically. It’s not worth much for a reason. I dont see why you would ask me that.

    The question wasn’t about the labor. The question was about the employer. The question was about the mindset you demonstrated in your first comment, that you later clarified:

    since when did anyone expect that a part time job at startbucks could or should be able to fully support a person? That’s fucking ludicrous.

    The question is about how you decided that this idea is “fucking ludicrous”.

    You lied to me when you said you didn’t hold this belief. It may have been an unintentional lie at the time, probably because you didn’t understand what I was asking. But, I was talking about what you describe as “fucking ludicrous”. Those two words are a vociferous acknowledgement of the beliefs I was talking about; beliefs that you clearly hold. I want to know how you came to believe this idea to be “fucking ludicrous”.

    We cant expect any company to do what in the interest of the workers, unless its financially beneficial

    Why not? I think we most certainly can. I think we can absolutely demand that they fulfill an obligation greater than just their own financial interests. I think we can certainly demand that their business operations benefit their workers, and society in general. When their business is demonstrably exploitative “shit-work”, we are not obligated to allow them to continue to do business. We can prohibit them from continuing to engage in that harmful business.

    Some business operate on unskilled labour

    Unskilled human labor.

    They require the labor of a human for their business to function, but they pay less than subsistence wages to that human. That is “shit-work”.

    The net effect of their business practices is harmful. Those workers are also consumers, and those consumers have less to spend. These “shit-work” companies are strangling the economy and damaging society in general.

    Again: we do not have to allow this. We do not have to allow “shit-work” companies to compete in our markets, where they drive reasonable, responsible employers out of business.

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      6 hours ago

      Again: we do not have to allow this. We do not have to allow “shit-work” companies to compete in our markets, where they drive reasonable, responsible employers out of business.

      Well put and logical. Taking this thanks.