• Rivalarrival
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    Norway, for example, which has seen consumption decline since 2018.

    They started obstructing traffic in 2022, not 2018. Norway’s consumption has increased, significantly, since they began obstructing traffic.

    Japan’s decline since then is commensurate with its population decline. Germany’s and Sweden’s are flat. UK is up even more than Norway.

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      I am telling you when their trend started. Norway’s consumption has not increased, it is down on 2018, as I said. It had a slight decline in 2023 (the increase between 2020 and 2022 is when people stopped driving during COVID then came back to restart its downward trend).

      Japan’s decline since then is commensurate with its population decline.

      Actually no, if you know what commensurate means. The population has dropped around 4% since 2008, yet oil consumption has been decreasing since 1996.

      Germany is similar in terms of consumption, Sweden likewise.

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/oil-consumption-by-country

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        12 hours ago

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

        JSO didn’t exist in 1996 or 2008 or 2018 or 2020. It was founded in 2022.

        You’re giving JSO traffic obstructions credit for declines that happened decades before they came into existence, and in countries where they havent actually disrupted traffic.

        You’re giving them credit for “declines” that have actually been increases since the time they started regularly obstructing traffic in 2022.

        Obstructing traffic is not an effective means of protest. Target actual agents and entities associated with the oil industry, not the victims.

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          Sigh… and how would you like to quantify that when there are so many factors?

          Obstructing traffic is not an effective means of protest. Target actual agents and entities associated with the oil industry, not the victims.

          They are effective and bring about awareness among other things.