VPN providers see blocking orders as a threat to security and some consider exiting France, if blocking measures are granted.
VPN providers see blocking orders as a threat to security and some consider exiting France, if blocking measures are granted.
Not sure if blocking/whitelisting providers is even feasible. Just about every big company uses VPN to let employees connect to the intranet
There is already precedent for that. Wireguard/OpenVPN traffic going out of the country is blocked, the same traffic within thwecountry is allowed. However, then we have issue with protocols mimicking normal HTTPS… So they may block the ranges of popular hosters instead. But I doubt it would be done to a full extent even in an extreme situation because way too much breaks… And the Internet is still much more than Hetzner or OVH.
P.S. From what I have seen, people have even been doing setups of two servers - one inside the country running WG/OVPN that their and their family or friends’ devices connect to, and one abroad - connected to the first one using a stealthy protocol that you could change at any time if the censorship situation changes, without the end devices having to bother or noticing anything.
Corporate VPNs are going to create some level of problems, but there are definitely countries that are doing VPN restrictions even though corporate VPNs exist.
Corporate VPNs have come up before as something that Russia’s policies could create issues with, and my guess then — though I haven’t dug into the situation — was that what Russia was going to do is not actually crack down on VPN use unless there are a lot of users using one VPN provider. That’s enough to make life a pain in the ass for the average user. They can’t go use something like NordVPN.
And…that’s good enough for the Kremlin. That is, they don’t need to get censorship of content to 100% of users to achieve their political goals. They just need to ensure that it’s not available to the bulk of users out there.
There are gonna be people who go get some VPS abroad and tunnel traffic over ssh or something. But…those people don’t really matter from the Kremlin’s standpoint. That is, their model isn’t “there is some deep secret that is only available on the outside world’s Internet and if one copy of that gets in, everything falls apart”. They just need to be able to generally crack down on servers in Russia and make sure that content that they specifically don’t like outside of Russia is hard to get at for most users in Russia.
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I can’t find discussion on Russia, but here’s some on China, and it does sound like that’s basically what the situation is there:
https://old.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/12dehxu/corporate_vpn_in_china/
Further down:
I can’t believe that China is actually unable to detect (non-steganographicly-concealed) VPNs at the border, like the Belgian IPSec VPN above. So they probably know perfectly well that there are unregistered, illegal corporate VPNs. They just aren’t going to bother cracking down down on an organization unless they feel that it’s reached the scale to be a problem, and if they do, then they’ve got a legal basis to do so.
I would bet that the Chinese government does have a list of detected unregistered VPNs and how much traffic moves over them.
A TON of people in Russia still use the Three-Letter Word tho, because blocking them is a whack-a-mole. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is above 50% already, given how omnipresent the usage of blocked services are.