No, this is more like arguing if it’s murder or running a stop sign, it’s simply ridiculous to put them in the same realm. The idea that someone consuming CSAM or committing sexual assault is the same as two teenagers who are only 4 years apart in age kissing is ridiculous. Even your concept that it is wrong ignores the idea of cultural and time period differences in seeing what was wrong and what wasn’t. It’s very chauvinistic while simultaneously downplaying actual pedophilia.
Pedophilia when rape is involved is same with murder, that’s what I meant. But this is still pedophilia as one is a minor, there’s just no rape. If my parents saw a grown ass woman(or man) kissing a child on THE MOUTH, you bet your ass they wouldn’t care about terms.
Just because your parents are crazy doesn’t mean the rest of the world is. They are really quite close in age and you can clearly see that it’s consensual. To act like this is the same as pedophilia when it’s people so close in age is truly and utterly ridiculous. That whole statement reeks of chronically-onlineism. The DSM-5 requires there to be a 5-year age gap to be qualified as pedophilic and cultural and social norms would also indicate that this is perfectly fine and certainly not pedophilia even if it is wrong.
Til that hating pedophiles and protecting children from them is called ‘‘crazy’’ nowadays. They would absolutely not stand for any pedophilia and would act accordingly if seeing suspected one or something like that happening(pedo as in person above 18 touching or kissing children inappropriately in any way, let alone anything more), same thing stands with my older sister. It doesn’t matter how close it is, it isn’t 17-18, it’s 4 year age gap, not to mention teen children developing at different pace to the point that even 2 year can be problematic.
If anyone tried do do this to me when I was 15(or today for that matter), prison would be the least of their worries.
You aren’t “protecting kids” by clutching your pearls about two teenagers kissing. You are actively downplaying actual pedophilia by comparing it to this. You are only proving my point about your parents supposed opinion on this being irrelevant if they would physically harm someone for consensually kissing someone else close in age. Go talk to someone in real life and you will see how crazy this take is.
I did that’s the point, and everyone’s either agreeing with me or being even more extreme. I’m not downplaying, of course it’s not the same as actual rape, but pedophilia is pedophilia and should be stopped in any shape and paid attention to before the worst thing happens. It’s not ‘‘two teenagers’’, it’s a grown adult and a minor.
And yes, I could 100% guarantee you that if anyone did this to me when I was 15, that the prison would be the absolute least of their worries, same thing stands with other family members.
If pedophilia is pedophilia then you should be well aware that pedophilia required a 5 year age difference. This is two teenagers kissing. If your family can’t control themselves to the extent that they would physically attack someone over consensually kissing another teenager then I don’t know what to say. Your comments are 1) encouraging and defending violence over two teenagers kissing and 2) it is so absurdly chauvinistic and full of yourself it is crazy. This being wrong isn’t widely accepted by our modern society in the west but it certainly wasn’t seen as wrong in the past and has difference views on this. Honestly, your post just reeks of chronic-onlineism.
Being a pedophile doesn’t have to be rape, it’s being attracted or doing inappropriate stuff with minors(it can be touching, mouth kissing on lips etc), this is a minor(as in younger than 18) and an adult. They certainly couldn’t if they saw a pedo doing this shit in person, ESPECIALLY if it happened to me or any minor family member. I’m personally always for prison option of course not towards the victim(where tf did you get that) but towards an adult pedo, but I’m sometimes leaning towards the option some from my family propose (better not to write it here). I’m not from west so idk about situation there, but I did hear that there is a lot of normalization in USA going on. Some of the people I know who have way more extreme opinions on this almost never(if any) spend time online, idk why hating pedos has to equal with being chronically online.
Oh, I guess you know better than all social norms and the authors of the DSM-5. Why in the world is their psychology research being done when we have you to just declare that two teenagers kissing one another (as they do in the video) is pedophilic? Let’s just downplay every single term by applying it to everything we disagree with! Why not?
No, this is more like arguing if it’s murder or running a stop sign, it’s simply ridiculous to put them in the same realm. The idea that someone consuming CSAM or committing sexual assault is the same as two teenagers who are only 4 years apart in age kissing is ridiculous. Even your concept that it is wrong ignores the idea of cultural and time period differences in seeing what was wrong and what wasn’t. It’s very chauvinistic while simultaneously downplaying actual pedophilia.
Pedophilia when rape is involved is same with murder, that’s what I meant. But this is still pedophilia as one is a minor, there’s just no rape. If my parents saw a grown ass woman(or man) kissing a child on THE MOUTH, you bet your ass they wouldn’t care about terms.
Just because your parents are crazy doesn’t mean the rest of the world is. They are really quite close in age and you can clearly see that it’s consensual. To act like this is the same as pedophilia when it’s people so close in age is truly and utterly ridiculous. That whole statement reeks of chronically-onlineism. The DSM-5 requires there to be a 5-year age gap to be qualified as pedophilic and cultural and social norms would also indicate that this is perfectly fine and certainly not pedophilia even if it is wrong.
Til that hating pedophiles and protecting children from them is called ‘‘crazy’’ nowadays. They would absolutely not stand for any pedophilia and would act accordingly if seeing suspected one or something like that happening(pedo as in person above 18 touching or kissing children inappropriately in any way, let alone anything more), same thing stands with my older sister. It doesn’t matter how close it is, it isn’t 17-18, it’s 4 year age gap, not to mention teen children developing at different pace to the point that even 2 year can be problematic.
If anyone tried do do this to me when I was 15(or today for that matter), prison would be the least of their worries.
Even the worst mfs in prison hate pedos.
You aren’t “protecting kids” by clutching your pearls about two teenagers kissing. You are actively downplaying actual pedophilia by comparing it to this. You are only proving my point about your parents supposed opinion on this being irrelevant if they would physically harm someone for consensually kissing someone else close in age. Go talk to someone in real life and you will see how crazy this take is.
I did that’s the point, and everyone’s either agreeing with me or being even more extreme. I’m not downplaying, of course it’s not the same as actual rape, but pedophilia is pedophilia and should be stopped in any shape and paid attention to before the worst thing happens. It’s not ‘‘two teenagers’’, it’s a grown adult and a minor.
And yes, I could 100% guarantee you that if anyone did this to me when I was 15, that the prison would be the absolute least of their worries, same thing stands with other family members.
If pedophilia is pedophilia then you should be well aware that pedophilia required a 5 year age difference. This is two teenagers kissing. If your family can’t control themselves to the extent that they would physically attack someone over consensually kissing another teenager then I don’t know what to say. Your comments are 1) encouraging and defending violence over two teenagers kissing and 2) it is so absurdly chauvinistic and full of yourself it is crazy. This being wrong isn’t widely accepted by our modern society in the west but it certainly wasn’t seen as wrong in the past and has difference views on this. Honestly, your post just reeks of chronic-onlineism.
Being a pedophile doesn’t have to be rape, it’s being attracted or doing inappropriate stuff with minors(it can be touching, mouth kissing on lips etc), this is a minor(as in younger than 18) and an adult. They certainly couldn’t if they saw a pedo doing this shit in person, ESPECIALLY if it happened to me or any minor family member. I’m personally always for prison option of course not towards the victim(where tf did you get that) but towards an adult pedo, but I’m sometimes leaning towards the option some from my family propose (better not to write it here). I’m not from west so idk about situation there, but I did hear that there is a lot of normalization in USA going on. Some of the people I know who have way more extreme opinions on this almost never(if any) spend time online, idk why hating pedos has to equal with being chronically online.
Oh, I guess you know better than all social norms and the authors of the DSM-5. Why in the world is their psychology research being done when we have you to just declare that two teenagers kissing one another (as they do in the video) is pedophilic? Let’s just downplay every single term by applying it to everything we disagree with! Why not?