Just curious if anyone has experienced this and is this common for communities in the .ml domain?
I mean it’s awfully pathetic.
Edit: Well, thanks for answering my question, especially the guy from .ml. Good to know what the behavior in general is over there.
Funny to see this come around every month or so when a new group of people come in and think “hey this is an interesting sub, let me joint this discussion!” and then come the questions.
In summary: don’t go to hexbear, lemmygrad, and the .ml instances, they are silly places
I’ve actually been using lemmy for a while, I guess I’ve just been lucky enough to have never comment in one of these in all that time. But live and learn and good to know.
Just happened to me today (not for the first time) when I questioned somebody’s idiotic meme with a post that just said “What is this slop?” which was apparently worthy of removal. Even mild criticism is not ok with them because their bubble is very, very thin.
It’s fine, whenever it happens it reminds me to block the community and the author. I recommend you do something similar to make Lemmy a nicer place to be.
I know better than to engage with those… people. But sometimes I don’t notice the domain on the community I’m reading from the All feed. Wish there was a way to just hide everything from those instances on my feed (without standing up my own instance).
Voyager provides the ability to block whole instances. Is that not default Lemmy functionality? I’ve been using the Voyager WPA since it was wefwef, so sometimes I forget what’s native and what isn’t.
Good question, maybe it’s possible these days. I know it wasn’t when I first joined. I’ll do some digging!
That is normal .ml behaviour.
Defederate? 👉👈🥺 (Jokus)
If there were a strong call for it from the userbase…
It would be interesting to see. Most of the tech ml communities have an alternative nowadays (!linux@programming.dev , !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com , etc.)
And of course the most important community, !bogengemeinschaft@feddit.org
You have been site-banned from .ml
Seriously though, if .world defed’d from them that would be so nice. .ml gets awfully mad about it when you bring it up though, almost like they’re afraid of missing out on all the .world content despite calling .world all manner of fronts and propaganda outlets lol
Can you really blame them? Everyone knows .world is nothing but hate speech, disinformation and transphobes running rampant. /s
They really hate it when you point out they could just defederate from us, because there’s no good excuse for not doing it if they truly believe their claims.
The pro-Marxism/Leninist site is mad that people disagree with their policies, and claim we’re propaganda, while banning counter opinions? Ironic lol
We may are, actually. And I just blocked .ml anyway, and that weird troll specifically. And defederated them from my private instance, whose only purpose is to see who up/downvoted, so now it can’t serve it’s purpose on the most interesting subject, but oh well.
We may are, actually.
What? IS .WORLD DEFED’ING‽ or feddit.org? If it’s .world I’m throwing a party
No, I mean that we might be site-banned from .ml, considering we both have bans in multiple communities afaik.
Oh damn lol, yea I know I am for sure because of my calls of boycotts and defederation (on other instances, not even on .ml no less) lmao
They complain about “Reddit like mods” and then do things right out of the Reddit mod playbook. Remember the subreddits that would ban you if you participated on a completely unrelated sub? Lolol
Here you go:
Well good to know. I mean I thought r/conservative was bad but damn apparently that community is the other side’s mirror.
Tankies are basically the same as right wingers or conservatives, they just root for the other imperialist empire.
Why do so many people actively wish the world was a worse place?
At .ml? Oh boy. Did you say that Russia and China aren’t communist utopias?
Shit, I guess I really should avoid .ml then considering my own background on China.
I made the bannable error apparently by making my first post there stating that Arab Americans for Trump, sorry for Peace, did shoulder some blame for the 2024 election, provided some stats showing that their efforts likely affect Michigan and that they would have to live with the consequences of their decisions.
.ml is awful, but you’ll find a lot of those knee jerk purity types spread all over the lemmyverse.
Good ban from .ml. If only our mods were this based.
The problem is that you are blaming the voter instead of the party. Further you are blaming arabs for not voting for the genocide of arabs. The party failed you but not providing a platform that could succeed.
.ml before election:
Vote third party! A vOtE for hArRiS is a vOte for GeNOcidE!!! What? Third-party in the US has never ever come close to ever winning EVER? NAH THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE THIRD PARTY!!!
.ml after election
Nooo guysss don’t blame us, we were just a tiny voice we couldnt have possibly thrown the election:( don’t divide! Blame the partyyyyy
It is sad that they don’t at least have the courage to be honest about their stance: they legitimately thought that trump was better than harris for Gaza and now they have egg on their face. To which I say, enjoy the leopards – they have a thing for egged faces.
And here we go again.
Regardless of who you want to blame, voter, non-voter, party, voter suppression, Cthulhu, it’s pathetic and sad that a community would be immediately banning a person, removing the comment, and not have an actual discussion. I mean that’s what I would expect of snowflake Republicans and being on r/conservative.
Honestly you sound like a dick we wouldn’t want around anyway. Sometimes people get banned to maintain the community atmosphere tbh.
But also they probably just considered you racist for blaming arabs
Jesus, I thought people were joking or exaggerating but here you are…
I guess I can’t ask you if you’re just trolling to make the hard Left seem crazy, silly and generally unpleasant…
Its annoying because the policies I believe in are hard left, more liberal than some of these mfs, but the left always eats itself, no solidarity, its easier to talk to conservatives, versus liberals who will argue with me while literally agreeing with me
Idk how they went so hard to the left they turned right and said vote trump
Leftists just want spaces where we don’t have to hear liberals and fascists make excuses for the american empire or blame its actions on marginalized groups. Thats genuinely it, we are allowed to maintain those spaces and kick people out of them for that purpose. Every instance does this to some degree, there are just significantly more of y’all than us, so we have to do it more.
Naw, you’re confusing or conflating hate speech with disagreement.
They are very different things. And to some extent, I get it, just like the trump bubble, things are easier when you are safely coccooned away from anything that challenges the narrative. I just don’t have much respect for it from either side.
Way to make their point for them.
I simply don’t view it as pathetic and think they can get over it
Don’t view what as pathetic? Get over what?
Why are mods and admins ban happy on .ml?
Okay there bucko. Pretty big brained leap to go from the idea of pointing out a specific group Arab Americans who endorsed Trump has to shoulder some of the blame for giving Trump the power to ethnically cleanse Gaza and turn it into Mar-a-Lago II fascist boogaloo equates to being racist there.
Damn, if that’s the “atmosphere” then I guess it no better than r/conservative.
You aren’t missing out on anything then
Clearly not anything of value there if this is the average user.
Did you make excuses for genocide OP?
So yes. ml is a lot trigger happier on genocide apologists.
If you don’t want to be treated the way Stalinists treat dissenters, don’t voluntarily put yourself in places where Stalinists set the rules.
I caught a ban for stating that Linus Torvalds is legally obliged to respect US sanctions against Russia.
This seems like standard behavior for .ml.
How does US have legal authority over open source or a Finn?
he’s a US citizen that lives in the US, that’s how
He was born a Finn, but last I checked he is a US citizen and Oregon resident by choice.
In 2004, Torvalds moved with his family from Silicon Valley to Portland, Oregon.
In 2010, Torvalds became a United States citizen and registered to vote in the United States.
US can order Taiwan and NL because they use tech that was licensed by US with that condition. Does GPL have US jurisdiction forbidding contributions?
GPL licensing on Linux has no effect on these sanctions.
Linux is a piece of software, owned by its individual authors and contributors, but published by Linus. Linus makes every decision about what is and is not in Linux.
Here’s how the “sanctions” usually work: the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) publishes a list called the Specially Designated Nationals (SDN) List. This list contains named individuals, businesses, and organizations that are not American (foreigners only. US Citizens are not supposed to be on the list). It is illegal for any US citizen or US business to transact business with anyone named on SDN. There are severe civil and criminal penalties for the US person if they’re not doing due diligence to check their international contacts against the list.
Now how does this affect Linux? It doesn’t affect Linux the project or any of the code. But it does mean that Linus the person can’t accept contributions from SDN persons. Linus’s lawyers have advised him that that would be a “business transaction” within the terms of the law.
Could Linus go in court make an argument that this sanctions regime violates his first amendment rights? Maybe. But I guarantee that would be a big hassle for him and Linux Foundation lawyers.
Could Linux the project restructure itself so that Linus the American is not making every decision on every contribution? Yes. But that would be a major change in organization.
And the records on the LKML seem to indicate that Linus and Linux leadership are at least politically indifferent to the sanctions in the first place, and possibly mildly supportive. So I doubt they’ll go to any major effort to change things up.
Edit: And finally I want to be clear on this point… Nothing is stopping sanctioned SDN entities from downloading a tarball off of kernel.org and making their own sanctions-busting GPL kernel with blackjack and hookers. That all seems perfectly legal to me.
You literally asked.
How does US have legal authority over open source or a Finn?
My comment was pointing out why he (a Finn) is subject to US law. GPL is GPL, no idea what you’re on about there. He is obligated to follow US law.
It wouldn’t be a Reddit replacement without power tripping mods.
I bet it got removed as “Rule 1” didn’t it? Lol
Just .ml things
I would have no idea. There was no message, direct or otherwise.
Called it lmao
Nice find. I mean no big loss being banned from there, just kind of sad and pathetic if you ask me.
- No bigotry, it’s laughable they think that’s bigoted.
So you attacked the people that didn’t wanted to vote for the party that was funding and arming the Israeli government while they carried out a genocide and you think that was unfair?
LMAO
Absolutely well deserved ban
Edit: hilarious how more often than not, the people complaining about being banned from over .ml completely deserved the ban
You think that’s “attacking” people? Man you are a ultra sensitive bunch aren’t you? You think pointing out actions have consequences is “attacking” people? Cripes, how do you deal with the real world then?
Whatever, I think at this point given the members who have been commenting, yeah pretty much I agree I got a well deserved ban.
You think that’s “attacking” people?
Yes
Man you are a ultra sensitive bunch aren’t you?
And now you’re doing it again. And you don’t even realize it. You think name-calling is not insulting?
It doesn’t surprise me you got rightfully banned.
For a mere 30 days by the way. Doesn’t seem that authoritarian to me, but y’all keep being incorrect so…
You think pointing out actions have consequences is “attacking” people?
No, I think writing
Do I think the shoulder blame for Trump’s victory? Fuck yes.
Is attacking. And the reason would be very easy to find too IF you had bothered to listen to the voices and criticism of Arab people. They have been complaining about it for over a year while people like you told them to shut the fuck up and vote for the administration that literally killed their family members over in Gaza.
I’m sure THEY are the ones who aren’t aware of what’s going to happen to them (/s)
Cripes, how do you deal with the real world then?
Very well. In the real world I call out the same BS as I do here.
Do you go around in the real world blaming minorities as well?
Whatever, I think at this point given the members who have been commenting, yeah pretty much I agree I got a well deserved ban
Finally something positive then, my friend. Seems to me like it helped you to see a different POV… Not so bad in my opinion
They have been complaining about it for over a year while people like you told them to shut the fuck up and vote for the administration that literally killed their family members over in Gaza.
We were all saying to vote for the least worst option, nobody was denying the DNC was doing shit all about the situation and making it a bit worse. We were all saying Trump would make it 1000 times worse, for everyone. And so far, in just 2 weeks, he’s demonstrated that to a T
Just sitting out the vote or voting third-party was bad enough, but actively voting for Trump…leopards eating faces man
Oh I definitely see .ml in a different light and you sure did help me realize that.
It’s .ml, if you’re not banned from there you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and rethink your life.
Go check out !usa@ponder.cat
I wonder if you can turn that ban into a speed run kind of like Club Penguin.
I can’t even imagine what would be happening in that community. I’m sure it’s all completely fair and level headed.
.ml doesn’t need to pretend to be open to all opinions and points of view. The mods prefer to keep it as a leftist space and aren’t interested in entertaining constant liberal commentary. If you think its pathetic then just block the instance and don’t engage.
.worlders always love a good whinge about it though…
yeah but they really shouldnt go around suggesting that instance to ppl if its not for general use and is worse than reddit when it comes to censorship
To be fair, they never go around telling beginners to use their instance.
Its one of the most reccomended ones offsite, half the comments replying will be about how trash it is, anyone sees that comment chain they’ll assume lemmys ass altogether
I couldn’t even if I wanted to since I’m no true scotsman and was banned after a single initial post. Very pathetic of the people there and very sad that the people there are so fragile they can’t handle any sense of dissent. I mean that’s a lot of conservative energy there.
I’d say it’s pretty fragile to make a post about how they banned you as if you’re looking for validation from other users for how pathetic it was. This is a recurring theme on Lemmy.world. You’ll feel right at home on that instance if you don’t like how .ml operates
You’ll feel right at home on that instance if you don’t like how .ml operates
“You’ll like being places where you’re welcomed even if you have a differing opinion far more than a place that carefully maintains an authoritarian echo chamber” isn’t exactly a scathing indictment of their character, you realize that right?
