I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to free their slaves and pay reparations”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to
shepherd the people into their eventual utopiafree the oppressed, by force if necessary.I like
to think oftankiesas Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to free their slaves and pay reparations”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia free the oppressed, by force if necessaryTIL stopping one of the most horrifying acts of authoritarian violence is also authoritarian.
if there’s one thing imperialist propaganda is good at more than anything it is instilling a deep-rooted chauvinism in its populace that persists even as the individual sheds capitalist brainworms
biggest dweeb in that thread called Russia authoritarian communist. it’s not even like China where there’s arguments from every tendency about state capitalism worker control yadda yadda. If you dont even know that a country that explicitly does not call itself communist, even socialist, that arose from the illegal dismantling of the nominally socialist nation that preceded it, is very obviously not communist, then what the fuck do you know about communism. why are you running your mouth about how people who subscribe to these tendencies aren’t real communists when you clearly don’t know jack shit about the revolutionary struggles of the oppressed peoples who developed these schools of thought in their fight to throw off the shackles of colonizers and imperialist oppressors??
the only person in that thread that isnt full on throating the fed line isn’t even particularly pro-CPC just pushing back on the propaganda and getting downvoted
level discourse. I need to log tf out, jesus
If you dont even know that a country that explicitly does not call itself communist, even socialist, that arose from the illegal dismantling of the nominally socialist nation that preceded it, is very obviously not communist, then what the fuck do you know about communism. why are you running your mouth about how people who subscribe to these tendencies aren’t real communists when you clearly don’t know jack shit about the revolutionary struggles of the oppressed peoples who developed these schools of thought in their fight to throw off the shackles of colonizers and imperialist oppressors??
You know what they say in the little red, white, and blue book: no investigation, obligation to speak.
I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said “owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough” and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.
∞ 🏳️⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish35·3 days agoowning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough
what… What… What… What… What… What… What…
You also need a 4th object, ideally a dishwasher, and then, and only then are you fully communist
But not an iPhone as that would completely negate the communism of the dishwasher and the other items.
You can have a Vuvuzela for double communism.
The higher communism levels you have the more communist you are. Karl Marx had a level of 112, with Stalin having 0. With modern technology these numbers can go up exponentially.
The formula I am using is 7x × v^(x/2) x=household appliances (fridges, washers, air friers, vaccums, ect.) v= # of vuvuzelas
MATH QUIZ (No calculator, paper only) If Vladamyr Lenin has 1917 air friers, and 3 vuvuzelas, how high is his communism power?
One of those shitty cell phone games where you drag and drop items until you reach enough communism.
The user meant slaves and not machines or it didn’t happen
Either that or it was more on the lines of “having personal appliances that go unused ~99% of the time is wasteful and unideal, preferably we would live a more communal life where appliances are shared”. Which isn’t actually a bad take at all.
I guess in some ideal future world, but I’m not going to insult any comrade here for owning a washer or dryer today. It reeks of “in communism, you can’t own your toothbrush” argument that is made up about it all the time.
I believe the emphasis was on personal there. Instead of a community dishwasher?
You know, I’ve been playing with this rule - if anyone makes a point and to illustrate it they use an analogy from any of the following media franchises; Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings or Star Wars - you can probably just ignore it, you’re not going to get any meaningful insight from whatever is said. I think that might be a pretty decent rule of thumb, since I’ve thought of it, its not been wrong for me.
well ,…what about andor ?
Exception that proves the rule
Damn Trailer for Season 2 Dropped …
Can wait for the new frame of reffrences its gonna drop on me! As the World currently is just like andor , you know …
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
A banger
CW: Ableism
Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.
If anyone from hexbear insults you, it’s a good thing. That means you’re still human.
In another part of the thread, someone uses the R-slur and gets called out. The person calling them out got downvoted while the ableist is upvoted, replying “This is why everyone thinks you’re insufferable.”
So yeah. They’re just mad they can’t come here and shout slurs at people.
Very silly people, and terrfiying to know that they think themselves morally correct.
Everyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and therefore automatically unserious and inferior, a liberal bedtime story for the ages
It really is annoying. Like, I’m probably not what one would consider ‘sane’ in some senses, but I still have better takes than that. (usually)
“insane” = “doesn’t tolerate me being an overt/covert racist/western chauvinist/libshit unlike the vast majority of reddit where I get rewarded with updoots”
I’d hate to meet someone well-adjusted in this insane world
“People who disagree with me are insane,” I say while crying and shitting my diaper because I’m a fucking baby.
Reddit stemlords hate the humanities while making analogies like a grade schooler
I like to think of libs like Darth Vader. They think they’re making the galaxy a better place because they’re following the law but in reality they’re just serving a self indulgent maniac in the emperor
“Hey, you know what this direct analogy for Nixon reminds me of? The left.”
A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns.
First mistake. No dictatorship of the proletariat is going to listen to someone not wearing linen.
It’s in our bible.
Are we Darth Vader or are we dragons?
We can’t be both
Also, don’t send me some clever mash-up of Darth Vader and a dragon
I know your games, I will scream
Whoops accidentally switched to lord of the rings halfway through my political metaphor
∞ 🏳️⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish27·3 days agoDo you know who never called themselves National Socialists? That’s right, the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, cuz they were German and not English (/s)
To be charitable I’m pretty sure they’re talking about the Ukrainian nazis
The Azov brigade commander Biletsky is a chairman of a party called the Social-Nationalist Assembly. This is totally different from Nazis, of course.
∞ 🏳️⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, ze/hir, des/pair, none/use name, undecided]@hexbear.netEnglish15·3 days agoIs “the actual nazis” not in reference to the NSDAP?
https://lemmy.world/comment/14900412
Here’s the context. They get into it over Ukraine again
It never fails to surprise me how that cm user has the dumbest takes. Just when you think they can’t get worse they go lower
here I was hoping his posting might dry up after all the US soft power influence agencies get shut down
Seem to be doing it for love of the game not as a job unfortunately. Next pug Jesus?
I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.
Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more
A tagline if I’ve ever seen one
- Communism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Stalin taking charge.
- Liberalism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Napoleon taking charge.
- Abolitionism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Dessalines taking charge.
I think tankies are like Snape while us real leftists are like Harry
At least it’s not Harry Potter
A sea of bowed hooded heads speaking wisdom*
*You dipshit, you moron