I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.

Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more

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    I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to free their slaves and pay reparations”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia free the oppressed, by force if necessary.

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      I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to free their slaves and pay reparations”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia free the oppressed, by force if necessary

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    if there’s one thing imperialist propaganda is good at more than anything it is instilling a deep-rooted chauvinism in its populace that persists even as the individual sheds capitalist brainworms

    biggest dweeb in that thread called Russia authoritarian communist. it’s not even like China where there’s arguments from every tendency about state capitalism worker control yadda yadda. If you dont even know that a country that explicitly does not call itself communist, even socialist, that arose from the illegal dismantling of the nominally socialist nation that preceded it, is very obviously not communist, then what the fuck do you know about communism. why are you running your mouth about how people who subscribe to these tendencies aren’t real communists when you clearly don’t know jack shit about the revolutionary struggles of the oppressed peoples who developed these schools of thought in their fight to throw off the shackles of colonizers and imperialist oppressors??

    the only person in that thread that isnt full on throating the fed line isn’t even particularly pro-CPC just pushing back on the propaganda and getting downvoted

    reddit-logo level discourse. I need to log tf out, jesus

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      If you dont even know that a country that explicitly does not call itself communist, even socialist, that arose from the illegal dismantling of the nominally socialist nation that preceded it, is very obviously not communist, then what the fuck do you know about communism. why are you running your mouth about how people who subscribe to these tendencies aren’t real communists when you clearly don’t know jack shit about the revolutionary struggles of the oppressed peoples who developed these schools of thought in their fight to throw off the shackles of colonizers and imperialist oppressors??

      You know what they say in the little red, white, and blue book: no investigation, obligation to speak.

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    I blocked hexbear after getting in too many stupid arguments with their users. The final straw was an argument where they said “owning a personal washer, dryer and vacuum isn’t communist enough” and I just gave up and blocked the bunch. Lot less grief in my feed after that.

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    You know, I’ve been playing with this rule - if anyone makes a point and to illustrate it they use an analogy from any of the following media franchises; Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings or Star Wars - you can probably just ignore it, you’re not going to get any meaningful insight from whatever is said. I think that might be a pretty decent rule of thumb, since I’ve thought of it, its not been wrong for me.

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    A banger

    CW: Ableism

    Nobody on hexbear is sane. One of the worst Lemmy instances. Many other instances already defederated from it and I can honestly just advice you to not interact with them.

    If anyone from hexbear insults you, it’s a good thing. That means you’re still human.

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    I like to think of libs like Darth Vader. They think they’re making the galaxy a better place because they’re following the law but in reality they’re just serving a self indulgent maniac in the emperor

  • A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns.

    First mistake. No dictatorship of the proletariat is going to listen to someone not wearing linen.

    It’s in our bible.

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    Are we Darth Vader or are we dragons?

    We can’t be both

    Also, don’t send me some clever mash-up of Darth Vader and a dragon

    I know your games, I will scream

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    I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says “then they’ll be made to”, revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.

    Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more

    A tagline if I’ve ever seen one

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      • Communism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Stalin taking charge.
      • Liberalism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Napoleon taking charge.
      • Abolitionism is great - in theory - but it always leads to someone like Dessalines taking charge.