• Rivalarrival
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    11 hours ago

    Why is anyone even talking about the controller?

    The controller asked the helicopter pilot if they had the jet in sight. The helicopter pilot said yes, and the helicopter pilot requested permission to maintain visual separation from the traffic. The controller granted that permission. The controller continued to monitor, and again asked the helicopter pilot if they had the jet in sight. The helicopter pilot again informed them that they did, and again requested to maintain their own, visual separation.

    Responsibility for this collision is on the helicopter pilot, not the controller.

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      3 hours ago

      The helicopter also deviated from the predetermined route, being out over the river instead of the bank, and exceeding their flight ceiling. They were absolutely not supposed to be there.

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      That’s extremely premature to say. One-sided ATC recording doesn’t provide full picture of the situation. We should reserve the judgment until at least preliminary NTSB report.

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        10 hours ago

        Sorry, you don’t get to post a piece that implies the fault is on the controller, and then argue that it is “extremely premature” to make any other conclusion.

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          The article I posted doesn’t represent my personal view. My view I expressed in the comment above, which is that there not enough facts to make a determination before official report comes out. Media speculation =/ facts.

          I know that waiting for an official report and not speculating is a foreign concept to anyone outside of aviation world, but not basing safety decisions on speculations but instead thorough investigating is why air travel is the safest travel mode.

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    https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/reagan-fires-11359-air-traffic-controllers

    On August 5, an angry President Reagan carried out his threat, and the federal government began firing the 11,359 air-traffic controllers who had not returned to work. In addition, he declared a lifetime ban on the rehiring of the strikers by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). On August 17, the FAA began accepting applications for new air-traffic controllers, and on October 22 the Federal Labor Relations Authority decertified PATCO.

    This is the finding out part when you do the fucking around.