Option 3 means that the Javascript standards team dies either way, right? Number 3. No hesitation.
the c++ team is a sacrifice I’m willing to make. can we just shoot Brendan Eich in the head if he’s not in there too?
Push him onto the pressure pad. Make it his fault.
I feel like all C++ does these days is badly and very slowly copy other languages. It wouldn’t be a huge loss.
C++ is obsolete now that we have Go
C++ is better suited to lower level operations than Go, C++ can have huge control over the environment (allowing it to be run on bare metal with no OS) while Go is limited due to it using a garbage collector
If there was a replacement for C++, the best bet IMO would be Zig
As someone who knows neither of the three: Why Zig over Rust as a Cpp replacement?
As someone who just picked through the Zig docs (take this with a mountain of salt), Zig has a few things going for it:
- spec is simple and closer to C in scope
- modern language design, toolchain, and overall ergonomics
- Go-like struct & interface system
- 1st-class C interoperability
Go foists co-routines on you and the runtime, and Rust has the borrow checker. Both of these things deeply impact language design, standard libraries, and the overall developer experience. So Zig might actually be a “more modern C” in many ways which makes it a contender. That said, it’s not a 1:1 comparsion since it lacks everything else that C++ does: you’d have to re-envision your software designs as something other than OOP if that’s what you’re used to.
Rust has its own issues.
Before the memory safety craze, Rust was hyped as a functional programming language, meaning it not only has lambdas and monads, but also const by default, which will force you to rethink all your programming decisions. Also no classes, so you do even more rethinking.
I don’t just rethink my programming decision but all my life decisions every night. Seem like Rust is the perfect language for me.
wat
I am currently in the process of completely rewriting the BSD kernel in go.
how are you handling the GC? how are you handling things like interrupts?
GOd will handle it 🙏
oh so you haven’t actually done any of it.
I prefer the binary format over the text format of WASM.
wait nvm I fucked up
Javascript Standards Team is such an Oxymoron.
Yeah, didn’t know there was a standard committee and can’t believe how inept they are.
They’ve done amazing work trying to turn the clusterfuck they started with into a good language
That “trying” is doing the heavy lifting in that sentence.
What are some of the outstanding issues that haven’t been addressed? I feel like there are genuinely good ways of doing everything these days
Javascript
Bottom tracks, easy
Worth it
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“You and your entire family” means “All life on Earth”.
That should make the decision somewhat easier.
By my definition, family is who you treat like family.
I try to treat everyone I meet like family
If you make it “all human live” it starts to look quite attractive again
I thought seaweed didn’t have a common ancestor
there might be an argument that JavaScript kills more than a nuclear bomb
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Ok so this one just isn’t fair.
Two possibilities end up with me dead, two end up with millions dead, and one ends up with me being unemployed.
Sorry not sorry Team A and B, sacrifices must be made.
Wait, which one leaves you unemployed?
The lack of standards path of course.
Unless you work for the committee or for ISO somehow, then I don’t think that really follows. C++ and JavaScript were both used in production for decades before they had standards, and the dissolution of the standards committee wouldn’t cause compiler vendors to stop developing compilers.
Ok.
Fair.
I’d take my odds with the bottom track.
I agree. And if it doesn’t fire the missile, I’ll go get that and hook it up to my Motorcycle like Raven (Snow Crash)!
poor impulse control
Oh, don’t misunderstand. I had that thought first time I read Snow Crash about a decade ago now. Haven’t found thought changing mind since. Just because Raven was poor doesn’t mean he made a “bad” decision in certain senses!
He literally has it tattooed on his forehead.
Been about a damn decade and I know I need to read it again.
Which metropolitan area?
Assuming it is in the US, at 4.5 million it can only be San Francisco/Oakland/Berkeley.
would the bomb also kill javascript and C++ or would I have to keep throwing trolleys at it until I get both silicon valley and the JS/C++ devs?
At that distance it also kills you, so it sounds like a good deal. No regrets.
win win win
Oh okay, so option 3 is a win/win
I’ve played enough X-COM to know that 50/50 is actually 100%, I just don’t know which way. Better trigger it!!
30%? Let me deliver that shot with crit across the map to your teammate hunkered down behind full cover for you!
A Mark VI only has a 18 to 160 kiloton yield.
Can we replace it with a B83?
Well, you can take yourself out of the equation because you’re not tied down and can just move after flipping the switch.
chooses bottom track
“C’mon…c’mon!”
trolley heads towards committe members
“Dammit!”
runs over and jumps on the nuclear bomb pressure pad
I’ll take the 50/50 because those are some damn good odds!
those are the best odds i’ve had in years
-dr. mann
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Are we in the blast zone of the nuke?
Maybe we could use Javascript to direct a simple robot to set the lever while we remain at a safe distance?
Maybe the real solution to this diagram is to nuke it from orbit.
But the robot has to run windows vista
And have a valid Apple developer account?
