• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    …Trump took the unprecedented step of refusing to rule out military action to take territory from a Nato ally…

    what. the. fuck.

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      What even happens if one NATO member attacks another? Does the aggressor immediately get their membership nullified and the rest must come together and declare war on them?

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        NATO immediately loses all credibility. Otherwise, nothing much.

        NATO was founded as a defensive pact against the Soviet Union.
        The only time it was ever used was as a tool by the US to force other countries to join the war in Afghanistan.
        Article 5 isn’t an automatism that forces all members to start an all-out war. They’re still sovereign.

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          Technically it was never used, that the three-ish nations provided troops and something like 40-ish nations provided logistics voluntarily, off the top of my head.

          While the USA was attacked on 9/11, the attackers being unclear made it difficult to evoke a full NATO response.

          A full NATO response would look very very different.

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        I mean, it’s never happened. But the US declaring war on Danish territory would violate Article 5.

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          Intra-alliance fighting has always been a concern because of Greece and Turkey. Article 5 is probably the only reason they haven’t already gone to war. But yeah the US would fight all of European NATO that answers the call, win a pyrrhic victory, and destabilize Europe for the next 100 years.

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            US wouldn’t win, that would be the best time for China to overtake them on the global stage

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      i’m guessing that heputin thinks that doing so would be enough to break apart the alliance or get the u.s. kicked out.