• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Read a mushroom textbook 30-years ago, so take this as you will, but it’s damned easy to test.

    Chip a tiny chunk off with your tooth. Wait 45-mintues. Heart burn, feel weird? Stop. No? Take a bigger chunk. Rinse and repeat.

    People act like the tiniest bit of fungus will kill them dead. Not unless your liver has failed, and then you got worse problems.

    Anybody know how to trip on Aminata Muscaria? Sure is a lot in the woods around here.

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      16 hours ago

      A muscaria isn’t so much a “trip” as it isn’t hallucinogenic, it’s more of a deleriant and disassociative. Also it’s gonna give you stomach cramps. People generally don’t eat them for fun.

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      2 days ago

      The better advice is if you don’t know what something is, don’t put it in your mouth at all. If someone was to try this when they are desperate for food, usually if alone and lost, they could make a bad situation even worse.

      There are quite a few stories or people eating death caps (Amanita phalloides), especially after cooking and not being able to detect anything off until they need to go to the hospital.

      Aminita muscaria has been used medicinally for years and has some really good potential. If you really want to trip though, just stick with psilocybin. Ibotenic acid is a neurotoxin and there is not a reliable way to test dosages at home. The last dosage advice I read was just eat a half mouthfull and you should be good if your stomach doesn’t cramp up to all hell. (The companies that have been pumping out muscimol gummies recently are shady as fuck if you were wondering.)

      The aminita family is still super interesting though and deserves a ton more research.

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        If someone was to try this when they are desperate for food, usually if alone and lost, they could make a bad situation even worse.

        To add to this, people can go for a very long time without food. We have the convention in of eating multiple times a day in modern society, but if a human needs to live off of fat stores – and, later, muscle – they can do it for quite a while, unless they’re very emaciated.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Barbieri's_fast

        Angus Barbieri (1938 or 1939 – 7 September 1990) was a Scottish man who fasted for 382 days,[1] from 14 June 1965 to 30 June 1966. He subsisted on tea, coffee, sparkling water, vitamins and yeast extract while living at home in Tayport, Scotland, frequently visiting Maryfield Hospital for medical evaluation. Barbieri went from 456 pounds (207 kg) to 180 pounds (82 kg), losing 276 pounds (125 kg) and setting a record for the length of a fast.[2]

        Water is different – a human can’t go for very long without water. Maybe a week or so, though people have gone longer (albeit that unpleasant things are going to be happening to them). IIRC, the world record is some guy in Austria that got accidentally forgotten about in a jail cell, though he was able to get some condensed water from the walls of his cell.

        kagis

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Mihavecz

        Eighteen days later on 19 April, an officer who had unrelated business in the basement opened his cell after noticing the stench that was emanating from it.[4] Mihavecz needed several weeks to regain his health.[2]

        But most people are not really in immediate need of food.

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      Aminita Muscaria can be eaten. There was either a vice article, or video about it. I recall thin slices and frying them was part of the technique.

      I imagine it’s a stomach cramps and vomiting kind of high like poorly prepared peyote/mescaline.

      Erowid should have articles/instructions for preparing Aminita Muscaria, just read some trip reports there. They often include basic steps.

      P.S Make sure your mushrooms have ALL the anatomy and colours, and spore print colour of the variety you’re looking for.

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        I followed the work of some A.M. groups for a bit and they have basically proven it can be eaten without dying. The question is, what benefits do the different A.M. compounds have? Unfortunately, everything I heard or read from those groups was anecdotal and not formalized. Admittedly, I am a year or so behind on my fungi studies so there may be new info out there.

        Speaking of anecdotal, my experience with psilocybin has been phenomenal. Granted, I don’t eat much anymore, but I don’t really need to. Studies do support its use for PTSD treatment for vets (me) and for recovering addicts and alcoholics (also me). I only mention this as there are likely thousands of undiscovered compounds in mushrooms that may be phenomenal for mental health The evidence (anecdotal or not) is looking good for A.M.

        Alas, there are risks.