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A pseudonymous coder has created and released an open source “tar pit” to indefinitely trap AI training web crawlers in an infinitely, randomly-generating series of pages to waste their time and computing power. The program, called Nepenthes after the genus of carnivorous pitcher plants which trap and consume their prey, can be deployed by webpage owners to protect their own content from being scraped or can be deployed “offensively” as a honeypot trap to waste AI companies’ resources.
“It’s less like flypaper and more an infinite maze holding a minotaur, except the crawler is the minotaur that cannot get out. The typical web crawler doesn’t appear to have a lot of logic. It downloads a URL, and if it sees links to other URLs, it downloads those too. Nepenthes generates random links that always point back to itself - the crawler downloads those new links. Nepenthes happily just returns more and more lists of links pointing back to itself,” Aaron B, the creator of Nepenthes, told 404 Media.
This showed up on HN recently. Several people who wrote web crawlers pointed out that this won’t even come close to working except on terribly written crawlers. Most just limit the number of pages crawled per domain based on popularity of the domain. So they’ll index all of Wikipedia but they definitely won’t crawl all 1 million pages of your unranked website expecting to find quality content.
Did you read the article? (There is a link to a non walled version.)
If it is linked to the Internet then it’ll be hit by crawlers. Their “trap” isn’t any how many show up but how long each bot stays on their individual site.
I think this rate limiting mechanism is mostly a niceness rule : you should try to not put too much pressure on any website and obey the rules defined in its robots.txt.
So I guess this idea is not bad as it would mostly penalize bad players.
Then that’s a where we hide the good stuff
Reminds me of burying folders in folders in folders to hide naughty content as a youth.
When I worked as a technician in a computer repair company, it was amazing the number of people that were just put that stuff on the desktop.
Totally brilliant and foolproof. Humans can’t open folders
Like what?
Pron
Like stuff that is not bad.
Rule out the mediocre too, unless it’s extremely mediocre then it’s OK
Can confirm, I have a website (https://2009scape.org/) with tonnes of legacy forum posts (100k+). No crawlers ever go there.
It’s a shame that 404media didn’t do any due diligence when writing this
I think you may have just misunderstood the post.
It’s not intended to trap the web crawlers indexing content for google search.
It’s intended to trap AI training bots harvesting sentences in order to improve their LLMs.
I don’t really have an answer as to why those bots don’t find your content appealing, but that doesn’t mean that Nepenthes doesn’t work.
if it makes you feel any better, i would go there if i was a web crawler.
Why would they? Outrage and meme content sell clicks, in-depth journalism doesn’t.
2009scape!? If it’s what I think it is that is amazing. Legend
It is what you think it is, come join ^^. It’s a small niche world