The fuck. It’s behind a paywall so I’ll never know.
All the college campuses I’ve worked construction or maintenance on (as an outside contractor) have had specific rules about this.
They were all around or exactly 2 seconds of looking at someone without reason (if you intend to interact with them in some work capacity you’re allowed to look at people)
Think about how rules get created. Think about how the rule had to be morphed over time until it became not allowed for outside workers to perceive students for longer than 2 seconds.
I’ve worked in trades for a long time now and I was completely unsurprised the first time i did an orientation at a campus and was actually glad they were so adamant about it because of people who worked for the same company as I did
Same rule as looking at the sun: you can gaze a little longer if you wear sunglasses.
What are these people doing with their eyes do get “sharp disapproving looks” from women. Like are they actually just doing the cartoon eyes pop out of head looking up and down when they see a woman and they genuinely thing they are the victim here??? Surely they know the difference between looking at someone and staring at/ogling them… Surely…
Why do people get mad when I ogle them like this?
if you look at a woman your eyes will be put out. if you perceive a woman by other means you will be broken on the wheel
If your eye causes you to sin, tear it out
-some guy
Maybe if he didn’t stare at women with this horrific expression(s) they wouldn’t be so disapproving
The pain of being Janus
damn does this guy tell on himself as a leering weirdo.
I especially like the part about his wife divorcing him for being this way.
also, if someone has time to give you a disapproving scowl, it was not a “quick glance”.
👀
The rule is you have to grow a second face which constantly drools so you can creep on two women at the same time
Things are so much easier when one has the “I don’t want to make other people feel uncomfortable” principal.
I don’t pretend to be some perfect guy, but I don’t recall being “given sharp, disapproving looks” in at least a decade if not much longer.
It’s always pretty sus when discussing this, if they paint themselves as the REAL victims. If they mentioned that as you said, they don’t want people to feel uncomfortable, then that’s totally forgivable.
i would like to live in a world in which strangers can just look at each other
you must lower your gaze near women in the american caliphate, as that is what american jesus (PBUH) did (it is sunnah)
dude stared into the sun too long
You’re welcome or I’m sorry.
What is the rule about looking at women in public? As a red-blooded male, I would like to stare, but of course that’s rude and possibly antisocial. In the past, when I’ve taken a quick glance and got caught, I was given sharp, disapproving looks from the woman and, often, some bystanders. I’ve always been a loner, so I didn’t always get clued in on proper etiquette. When I married, I asked male co-workers what to do about looking at women, considering my new status. One said, ‘‘You’ve got to smell the roses along the way.’’ I took that to heart and continued to ogle women. This eventually led to my divorce. When women wear tight pants, it seems unfair: They are very sexy, but men are not allowed to look. What do women prefer in this situation? I want to do the right thing. — Name Withheld
From the Ethicist: It’s clear that you’ve sometimes looked at women in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. Glancing at someone in a public place is always permissible; there’s often a fleeting moment of mutual acknowledgment — perhaps a slight nod or smile — before both parties look away. This momentary connection is part of how we experience our shared social world. No doubt if you find the person attractive, your glance may well linger involuntarily for a moment. But prolonging that moment further can cross a line. We can’t control our initial notice of others; we can control our subsequent choices. I suspect your ‘‘quick’’ glance wasn’t so quick. In public settings, it’s generally intrusive to display sexual interest. That it may sometimes be welcomed doesn’t change the situation. Yes, a brief friendly glance that produces a smile and a direct reciprocating look can mean you’re being invited to maintain eye contact. But if there’s any doubt, the unease caused by leering is bad enough that you should err on the side of averting your gaze. In your case, there normally should be doubt. Being aware of whatever shortcomings we may have in the skills of everyday life can guide us toward better practices. Just as people who know they have a poor sense of direction learn to check maps more often, someone who struggles to read social signals around looking would do well by being reserved and not risk making others uncomfortable. It’s a matter of taking the trouble to do what, for you, doesn’t come naturally, and adopting habits that respect everyone’s dignity. When it comes to men looking at women, in particular, there’s a broader social context in which women often experience unwanted attention or feel unsafe. The sexual etiquette I’ve described allows men and women to enjoy public spaces as equals. That’s why we wrong strangers when we fail to respect these rules. Such everyday courtesies are part of what it means to share a world.
“a red-blooded male”.
One said, ‘‘You’ve got to smell the roses along the way.’’ I took that to heart and continued to ogle women. This eventually led to my divorce.
lol, lmao even.
Yeah it’s fun extrapolating what else happened between those last two sentences.
The sexual etiquette I’ve described allows men and women to enjoy public spaces as equals
I don’t think this dickhead should be allowed out into public spaces
I took that to heart and continued to ogle women. This eventually led to my divorce.
When my parents got divorced, my dad started telling people they got divorced because she wouldn’t stop smoking. He cheated on her multiple times and she found out. Same vibes.
From the ethicist: I have forwarded your letter to AcidSmiley. She has dispatched the Red Guards so you can learn how to not be a mega creep on a collectivized farm, where you can “smell the roses along the way” in a more literal sense (the roses are actually turnips tho).
I knew this was going to be bad, i knew it would be worse than expected when i read “as a red-blooded male”, but i did not expect that.
The only thing worse than “as a red-blooded male” is “I’m/he’s old-fashioned”.
This eventually led to my divorce.
Why do I get the feeling that there was way more going on here than staring at other women
I stir my coffee counterclockwise. This eventually led to my divorce.
In the past, when I’ve taken a quick glance and got caught, I was given sharp, disapproving looks from the woman and, often, some bystanders.
The “quick glance” in question:
Please please please tell me this is satire and not the real article
If I had written this it would have had some Sir Mix-a-lot lyrics sprinkled in.
first they came for the weirdos
and I did not speak out
because I was not a weirdo
then they can for the people who see a woman, scream “Hummina hummina hummina bazooooooooing! eyes pop out AROOOOOOOOGA! jaw drops tongue rolls out WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF WOOF tongue bursts out of the mouth uncontrollably leaking face and everything in reach WURBLWUBRLBWURblrwurblwurlbrwubrlwburlwbruwrlblwublr heart in the shape of a heart starts beating so hard you can see it through shirt” and bash their head in with a hammer
and there was no one left
to speak out for me