• BothsidesistFraud@lemmy.world
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    This is the sad but inevitable outcome of our busted immigration policy since the late 90s.

    Congress never got its act together - nobody bothered to lead - and so we lived with a variety of poor compromises as Americans got angrier and angrier at the lawbreaking. It’s incredible that we had to settle for DACA instead of something like the DREAM Act.

    Then the failure to act during the past 5 years made it all even worse.

    Luckily most illegal immigrants are very resourceful and eager people who stand a good chance at landing on their feet.

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    Propaganda was not the only weapon the Nazis used against the Jews. They also relied on terror. On March 9, 1933, just a few days after the elections, Nazi SA storm troopers in Berlin imprisoned dozens of Jewish immigrants from eastern Europe.

    https://www.facinghistory.org/resource-library/targeting-jews

    I am not saying this is or will be as horrific as the holocaust. It is not and probably will not be. That’s quite a high bar to clear. It does however show paralels in tactics and moral values between the facists of the 20th century and the MAGA-cult.

    Also interesting in light of discussions about revoking the citizenship of immigrants children: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesetz_über_den_Widerruf_von_Einbürgerungen_und_die_Aberkennung_der_deutschen_Staatsangehörigkeit#p-lang (I could only find sources in German, but the firefox translator should be able to handle that)

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    I just hope this reckless pandering to the country’s worst impulses blows up in his fat, orange face.

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    We’re really gonna see what it means to be a “santuary city” when there is actually someone willing to try to send agents there anyways

    Both laws prevent local enforcement officers from asking for a person’s immigration status, detaining someone because of their immigration status or cooperating with federal immigration agents in several crucial areas.

    This helps protect undocumented immigrants, because ICE agents seek local law enforcement help when they’re going after noncitizens with reported immigration violations.

    https://www.wbez.org/immigration/2024/12/11/chicago-and-illinois-have-sanctuary-laws-what-does-that-actually-mean

    Assuming the cops don’t collaborate with ICE bc they are prohibited from doing so are we doing to see a bounty system where citizens are given bounties for ratting on migrants or a tip line or just a bunch of door knocking in poor areas. We’ll see I guess.

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    No, he is not going to do the biggest deportation in history. He’ll try, and this shit will ruin some lives, and after a short time realistic consequences will strike and state and local governments and businesses will tell him to get fucked.

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    So are these individuals including children being shipped to the camps in Texas? Are they going to concentrate hard once they wait there?

    Also, how long does it take to legally deport someone, and where do these individuals get deported too? Are the receiving countries setup to receive a influx of people? Will half of a family be accidentally deported over seas and the other half somewhere else? Do the American kids that were born in the USA need to choose if they want to be deported, or could they just sponsor their patents? So many question.

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      John Oliver did a great (and by great I mean horrifying) segment on the logistics of mass deportations. There’s no way to sugarcoat it, this will be a shit show that destroys lives.

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      Are the receiving countries setup to receive an influx of people?

      More or less. Countries already have a set quouta of the maximum number of deported immigrants they’ll receive. This causes people from certain countries (like Brazil, which has a low quota) to be "safer’ from deportation than, say, Mexicans. That’s at least under current laws, but Trump plans to bypass some of the deportation processes, so who knows.

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      Overseas? Fuck no, that’s too expensive. Send everyone to Mexico cuz fuck it, right?

      The only other cheap option is, what, ferries? Which would probably turn into death boats? Plane tickets are a no go.

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        Trump is probably too stupid to understand how different cultures/customs are between non-whites.

        “They’re brown, so they’re mexican, right? I hate mexicans, I hate brown, so… all go to mexico!”

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      “Legally”. Remember what he can do while in the process of “official acts”.