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It’s one thing knowing it’s going to happen, it’s going to be something else entirely when it does.
It’s like knowing you’re going to die. We all “know” our day is coming, but we don’t really appreciate that until we get old or someone close to us passes away.
As much as I enjoy saying “I told you so,” which is a LOT, I’m really goddamn tired of being proven right so fucking much.
The main issue, which I find with conservative voters a lot, is that unless they are obviously and directly impacted by something they will never notice or link actions and consequences.
And even if they are they will redirect it. Was inflation caused by trump printing $7 trillion dollars in one year while forgiving PPP loans made by wealthy businesses? No, it’s because Biden passed an infrastructure bill.
Or you can go back 1 step further. Was it caused by Trump firing the pandemic response team and allowing Covid to be the first domestic pandemic in a hundred years, and forcing a shutdown of almost all US business, forcing the Fed to drop interest rates to historic lows to stimulate the economy, and way overdoing that, allowing the wealthy to buy more assets for essentially nothing while the working class worried about if they would lose their jobs while the investor class bought more and more property driving housing inflation while supply chains worldwide were put on hold and then jump started causing everyone to raise price to make up for lost income and increased demand causing inflation in goods. Then with goods being so much more expensive and a ton of freshly printed money driving inflation, did people want to be paid more to continue to exist, driving wage inflation?
No, surely it was Joe Biden being nice to trans people that caused this. People are fucking stupid, and I’m not looking forward to the next 4 years.
Instead of I told you so I might just start saying
I’m really goddamn tired of being proven right so fucking much.
It’s been like that for the last 2 months.
Silver lining is that we’re looking at a clown-show fascist circus instead of an effective fascist takeover.
This might very well not (yet) be the “burning of the reichstag and declaration of the state of emergency” part of the fashist takeover. Trump is incompetent but if he does to much damage the government might just complety collapse and musk and zuck can enact a monarchy.
I am much more afraid of the people in the second row ready to take over than of trump himself.
They moved the innuagriation indoors because “reasons”. Monday is going to be fun, for sure.
What is this picture?
Looks like it’s from the set of Game of Thrones.
Dude I hadn’t smoked a cigarette for like 2yrs and then after election day… I’m smoking again.
Bro… Governments came and go. Don’t let that dictate your health. My aunt died of lung cancer with an o2 mask clamped to her mouth. It is the worst way to go. I’m rooting for you
This is why lefties shouldn’t run the country. Your whole game is fair weather optimized.
What the fuck are you even talking about lmfao get out of here
sidepoint, i love your name
Thanks it’s actually my legal name, I know there are some imitators out there but make no mistake I’m the original. Bizzle isn’t some half-rate streamer or Christian rapper; I’m a sci-fi enthusiast and weed farmer
So your point is that we should have been preparing for the apocalypse a long time ago like you?
No my point is that if your addiction starts again because your non preferred candidate got elected, you have a character issue.
I didn’t like Biden as a President but I got consistently stronger and healthier during his term.
The part of my life that I’ve voted Republican corresponds to the part of my life I’ve taken the most realistic assessment of myself and my role in the world, and I see the two as connected.
“Non preferred candidate” - self declared “day one dictator” whose last run ended with women essentially losing the right to survive non viable pregnancies (how many women have already died)? Don’t forget the trans military ban he put in last time, which is probably going to turn into a ban on adult transition.
You understand that fascism is bad right?
You are being impolite and arrogant.
what???
Do you have a more specific question? Or is this just another opportunity to dunk for the room?
Yeah. Idk how I feel about this gotcha perspective when trans people and undocumented immigrants are facing state violence on a nearly existential level. Like, is this your response to that? To adopt this smug affect and do nothing? Business as usual for you, I suppose.
You’ll have to forgive me for taking this post very literally. I am very scared for what is going to happen to my friends and loved ones in the coming weeks.
options are limited but they are there.
- stay in the dangerzone, conveniently marked in red on the map
- move to a blue state that has a solid track record. if you’re willing, flood red counties and turn them blue/purple to help maintain stability of the state
- leave the country, how long before cheeto king claims a blue state administration broke “federal laws” and arrests them and replaces them with loyalists?
So
- Have money
- Have money
- Have money
Got it
Those 2 options both depend on having money to fund your escape. People unfortunately can’t just leave. Children can’t just leave.
then you have nothing to lose. join the resistance.
Brexit is still delivering all the "I told you so"s. It’s less fun than it sounds.
I don’t think it’s exactly going to be fun, I just know the only pleasure that’s left is schadenfreude.
Yeah, people keep saying “This time they’ll see!” But, aside from the occasional “leopards ate my face” moment, the same people keep lining up for more of the same.
And much of the consequences are sloughed off on the people who are fighting hardest against it.
They’re fucking around, and we end up finding out.
Oh, don’t worry, on a long enough timeline, everyone ends up finding out. It’s just that if they were capable of figuring it out, this all would have been avoided in the first place.
Yeah there seems to be this palpable expectation on Lemmy that any day now half of the voting public is going to have some realisation and say “oh my god what have we done”.
It doesn’t work like that though.
Most of the actual retarded things Trump said he would do like the tariffs et cetera will be done in performative way. Done in a way that isn’t too disruptive or harmful but still lets him say he stuck it to China.
The more insidious project 2025 stuff isn’t applied in real time. How does the media report on the slow corrosion of quality of life and rights to privacy et cetera.
I was in the US for the first trump election and in Britain for Brexit. And now I’m back in the US for this shitshow. It’s like I can’t escape the crazy – it’s following me.
Or maybe it’s all my fault and I’m a bad talisman. I dunno, just please make it stop.
It’s been nearly 10 years and we’re still getting fucked by it.
God damn has it been that long?
Well it depends on if you count from when we voted for it or when we actually did it.
Still pretty fun not being in the UK. Though I do feel bad for everyone not having voted for this shit.
México too, we go with «Disfruten lo votado», bitches get mad about it
What does it mean and whats the context? Actually curious as an ignorant non spanish speaking EU person.
In English, it’s more or less telling people to “enjoy what you (all) voted for”.
ah yes, the illusion of my vote mattering in my state, topped with an icing of illusion of the candidates undemocratically selected by my party representing my views in any way whatsoever. But I’m told it was on me to get off my couch and go vote for one genocider or one that was very likely a genocider, but also a complete fascist nutter. Both choices have broken laws that should have put them behind bars for the rest of their lives.
Really, this is all my fault. Why am I so terrible?
I hope you understand I was only translating the phrase. I agree with the sentiment toward the MAGOOs, but everyone else is a victim of their idiocy.
Edit: I meant to write MAGAs but MAGOOs at least makes me laugh.
I kinda like magoo vs maga. It feels a little like something someone’s old-world Italian uncle would have called a person in anger and disdain.
very likely a genocider
There are a lot of things to be said about Trump, but we’ve actually had positive headlines regarding genocide heading into his presidency, and it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office. Genocide Joe is just going to stack corpses until they wheel him out of the White House.
I don’t say this pretending that there isn’t likely some profit in it for Trump, because we saw in his first term that every decision he makes profits him financially in some way, but grift is better than more dead civilians.
it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office.
It’s no coincidence like it’s no coincidence that paying extortion money avoids broken kneecaps.
Its well documented that Netanyahu and Trump are buddy buddy. I guarantee you the timing was to some degree chosen explicitly to benefit Trump. Netanyahu is doing the kinds of things over there that Trump is just itching to do here. (or in Canada or in Mexico)
If Trump gets any credit here it’s for being every bit as moustache-twirling-evil as Netanyahu such that their worldview and interests will tend to align.
I’d like to argue with that, but you are factually correct.
Another one of Russia’s massive intellegence successes of late.
“Could it be the English are morons? No! It’s the Russian to blame!”
Ehh…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_Brexit_referendum
I dunno, there is a fair bit of coincidence there, far more so than anything save the extreme end of a probability curve would suggest.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, they’d have to be completely incompetent not to at least try and put a finger on the scales - and I’d be fucking shocked if they were the only ones - but at the end of the day, it wasn’t Ivan voting, it was Barry. Pretending it wasn’t is just setting yourself up for disappointment the next time Barry goes voting.
I mean it’s obviously both.
Okay you said whatever you wanted. Now what?
I can’t imagine the cognitive dissonance these fascists are going to deal with.
Unfortunately for the majority of them it won’t be a problem. He’ll perform exactly as desired “owning the libtards” and getting rid of “the immigrants”. I wish I had a more optimistic outlook on the next 4yr but frankly we already know how it will go from his last term. At least to an extent.
The “Don’t blame us we didn’t vote for him” crowd immediately turned around and a day later switched to “It doesn’t matter if you voted for him, he’s still your president” and didn’t miss a step. They are fuckin mental contortionists.
What?
Like I’m actually confused, what?
I’m not exactly sure either but the “not my president” thing seems to be primarily but not exclusively used by conservatives when they’re not in power.
But lack of progressive messaging, the genocide, and doubling down on neo liberal policies actively suppressed the vote. I blame the people who stayed home, but the blame for them doing so is exclusively on Joe Biden who will be remembered as the president who enabled Trump the second term and everything that that enables.
Probably the end of democracy in the US and likely a form of techno-monarchy and neo-feudalism.
Time to study the French Revolution comrades!
In spite of themselves. Despair is a useless emotion.
You already can. Just look at how liberals are literally going insane, having delusions and hallucinations because they fundamentally cannot comprehend the inherent contradictions of their own existence.
Huh, a rare Lemmy conservative. Take a photo, kids.
Just look at how far-leftists are boosting Russia and ignoring their massive psyops operations, one of which Trump is.
Russia is an american operation, not the opposite. Remember the 90ies when they got coup’ed and starved for ten years?
Everything bad is Russia’s fault
-Average American
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No, it’s not going to be “I told you so.”
Conservatives will still blame Biden and dems for all the problems.
We told you the government doesn’t work! Just look how the government we elected doesn’t work.
That’s Conservative Playbook 101. Take something working well, intentionally break it, complain that it’s broken and needs to be privatized, rinse and repeat.
What is the US Postal Service?
It’s the government office that handles mail delivery, but that’s not important right now.
Also, there’s a lot of people that will say, “don’t be mean to them, that never changes their mind!” “talk to them, be empathetic”
Man, anyone suffering after voting for Trump deserves a big “fuck you”.
Yeah, I will never forgive a 2024 Trump voter. They know who they voted for, they know who he is. No excuses this time. Trump voters claiming ignorance this time will not be accepted.
Not if historic patterns repeat.
Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all went into office with control of Congress and lost it at the mid-terms, so it’s not unlikely that a portion of voters will flip in 2026.
They’ll be back in 2028 though, when the Dems nominate Gavin Newsom and try replay this ‘joy and unity’ bullshit again.
Yup, they still deflect to Hillary’s emails and shit when you call out new cabinet positions. If we could harness their mental gymnastics into physical energy we’d solve the climate crisis.
Over Christmas my mom showed me her new “Lock Her Up!” shirt. It’s been almost 10 years since Clinton has been relevant, move on.
When there is no big cultural identity for everyone to pretend to be or superheroes, pirates or whatever, this is the culture that idiots have to latch onto.
Makes them still feel like they are part of a club that secludes others.
Right, there’s no satisfaction in pointing out the results of a conservative power grab. Their narcissism makes them immune to introspection or self-awareness.
Who cares about conservatives? we talkin about who didnt vote or those “swing voters”
We talkin bout practice.
It’s the deeeeeep state!
Don’t forget the “I wish dems did better!”. You and me. Both but… Buckle up.
Four years? In ten years from now, the elections of 2024 will be called the ‘Last Elections’ and President Musk will arrest people who will call for their return.
I’m expecting a total collapse before that happens.
One can only hope. Death to the genocidal empire
lovely, now Lemmy has accelerationists.
I’m not an accelerationist, I’m just not a citizen of the US and the faster the empire dies, the better for the rest of the world.
cool. you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you.
not sure of the logic that got you to “US democracy dies == good for the world” but you do you.
you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you
Why would I care what Trump loves? Again, not USian.
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
cool. I won’t dispute anything you said because I’m not trying to convince you, just educate.
so you know what happens when empires fall right? power vacuums! who do you think will try to become the worlds new power?
enjoy the endless wars and skirmishes as borders change and entire countries disappear overnight because the “evil hegemony, America” is gone! maybe not endless…but at least within some of our (albeit now shorter) lifetimes!
YAY! You win!
hope you aren’t draftable, or near a warzone, or…you know what you’ll find out.
Bold of you to think it will end in 4 years.
2016: “it’s no like roe is going away! People are over reacting!” 2024: “…”
I’m saying. Like are we even going to have an election in 4 years? The dude violates every Norm, every tradition.
The small part of my brain that is conspiratorial be like, he’s not moving the inauguration inside because of the weather or any threat, it’s for the optics, It’s for watering down the ceremony of the transfer of power, because he doesn’t intend to have another one.
The authoritarian right will keep pushing until people push back harder.
Poor Norm.
“You fuckers asked for this so either shut up or move”
Going to be the only thing keeping me going
I’m buying a bunch of “I did that!” Trump stickers to slap on empty grocery shelves. That’s gonna be fun.
I picked up rows and rows of “Billionaires shouldn’t exist” and “No human is illegal” myself. I need to see if my old ass shitty canon can print on sticker paper. Maybe get back into making stencils.
Yep those things need to be EVERYWHERE after they had those dumbass Biden ones, and the best part is that this time they’ll actually be correct
