Propaganda leaflets dropped by Ukrainian drones over places where North Korean soldiers are hiding or moving in the Kursk region.

As we can see, Ukrainian UAV operators are aiming not only at the heads of DPRK mercenaries, but also at their new phobias - in the form of drones.

At the same time, giving them a choice: to surrender, escape from this horror and get a chance at a new life, or to die ingloriously and inevitably from an FPV drone or cluster munition.

Translation of the inscription: “Don’t die in vain! Surrender is the way to survive.”

https://t.me/russianocontext/5764

  • Juigi@lemm.ee
    7·
    4 hours ago

    I dont know but north korea openly sending their troops to help russians seems a bit unfair. EU time to wake up!

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
    12·
    6 hours ago

    The year is 2038. Korean-Ukrainian food is a hit new global phenomenon, drawing tourism to the region of “Little Korea” in Ukraine where the sounds of accordion music fills the air and you can pose to have a statuette made. The people live in peace since they defected from the Russian invaders en masse.

  • WorldsDumbestMan
    6·
    6 hours ago

    Bad choice for fanatics. Can’t they drop something that makes it obvious how their regime abused them, then offer them better living conditions?

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
      3·
      2 hours ago

      you always start by dislodging who will be easiest to dislodge: youthful critical thinkers who |aybe think this is all a sham. i agree that this is imperfect messaging, but i also presume some discussion went into that north koreans have almost zero media literacy for anything outside north korea by design, so you have to start with something that looks familiar to all of them to start getting the more pliable minds across the battle lines and start talking about what could work

  • perestroika@lemm.ee
    38·
    1 day ago

    Sadly, they are not proper merceneries. A mercenary fights for money, but those guys probably know their families will be repressed if they surrender.

    If I was the developer of the propaganda leaflet, I would add one sentence (after double-checking with a competent social engineer):

    • “you get a new identity, at home they will think you died”
    • cows_are_underrated@feddit.org
      4·
      5 hours ago

      AFAIK Russia doesn’t count their dead soldiers very carefully so it is quite likely that they will label everyone as dead when they go missing.

    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee
      5·
      4 hours ago

      Consider this. A drone you didn’t spot drops this on your feet.

      Next drone might drop a grenade.

      I would surrender.

    • perestroika@lemm.ee
      10·
      1 day ago

      Yes. The protocol of “how to surrender” would also be useful to add.

      Obviously, one cannot surrender to an FPV drone - it doesn’t have enough battery for the pilot to check if one follows through with the promise.

      Throwing down all weapons, raising a white cloth and walking towards the opposing side might be a good enough signal for the pilot however - they might go looking for another target before the battery runs out.

      For the leaflet to achieve results, it must lay out a good method of how to surrender. And that’s a lot easier with Russians since they have a language which Ukrainians understand.

      To Russians, one can write “go to frequency X MHz, drop encryption and negotiate surrender” or “go to Telegram channel X to arrange surrender” but no such hope with North Koreans.

    • ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net
      6·
      1 day ago

      I’ve seen a handful of Ukraine war shots.

      There’s a bunch where poor Russian conscripts drop their rifles and surrender to a drone, and the drone “flies” them to a nearby base.

      The alternative being the drone being the last thing you ever see.

      • perestroika@lemm.ee
        6·
        1 day ago

        I can confirm, it happened a few times in Kursk, I’ve seen the videos.

        However, the drone in question was a reconnaisance drone (those have long flight times). Ideally, you never see a reconnaisance drone - it sees you from beyond visual range well enough.

        I believe the situation in Kursk was that Ukrainians deliberately sent a reconnaisance drone to take a close look, and perhaps also dropped a few leaflets. Russians then understood that their coordinates were known, they had no shelter available and a strike might come any second - and made the gestures to indicate surrender.

        It also helped that the Russians in question were conscripts - young people undergoing military training. Support for the war is the lowest among this age group.

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zipEnglish
    81·
    2 days ago

    This is a very good example of something that i identify as 100% propaganda but still agree with. Dont die in vain, surrender. Another pointless fucking massacre russia started.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        11 hours ago

        True, but if your squad dies and there’s no one to account for you, get the fuck out. No one will know you aren’t one of the mangled corpses. Start new, and live.

      • potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish
        3·
        14 hours ago

        How will the NK govt know they surrendered and that they didn’t just go missing, get obliterated by an explosive, or something else?

          • Vytle@lemmy.world
            12·
            1 day ago

            The families of North Korean defectors get sent to internment camps (this is a fact). OP is saying tankies deny this (this is a fact).

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          17·
          2 days ago

          up to eight generations

          extends to children born in prison

          So there’s like some kids being born on those camps who get told they’re they’re because great-great-great-great-great-grandpa was a political enemy of the government.

          I lean not yet three aren’t, because NK isn’t that old yet, but…

          • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            i think that the wording is vague enough that it could mean that the sentence could be 8 generations

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
              4·
              2 days ago

              Yeah, my point here being that they’ve probably given someone an eight generation sentence and idk, somehow it seems like they can still have babies while in prison camps (prolly because it’s necessary to maintain the population when everyone is imprisoned), so technically someone could be born in an NK prison this decade (let’s assume a very short 20 year generations) and still be responsible for something their great grandparents did in the 40’s and still have a few generations of kids have to bear through imprisonment.

              Imagine being at the far end of it. Like you’re the 9th gen. “Congratulations, your family has been in prison for a century and a half, but you’re no longer responsible for your great-great-great-great-great-grandpa’s sins. Enjoy!”

              • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
                3·
                1 day ago

                with this little nugget:

                Congratulations, your family has been in prison for a century and a half, but you’re no longer responsible for your great-great-great-great-great-grandpa’s sins. Enjoy!

                Oh your parents? No you leave now and you’ll never see them again. No you don’t get a choice

  • Dasus@lemmy.world
    42·
    2 days ago

    I think the should also drop usb sticks with libraries full of basic facts that NK soldiers may have never seen.

    Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader as well. Can’t inform them when theyre in NK, but now that they’re there and youre already dropping leaflets, might be useful to try to deprogram them as well.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
      11·
      11 hours ago

      I hate this attitude of superiority like they don’t know what the fuck’s going on. They’re living it, bro.

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        4·
        9 hours ago

        What the fuck have you’ve been smoking?

        https://www.nknews.org/2020/03/ask-a-north-korean-how-much-do-north-koreans-know-about-the-outside-world/

        North Koreans have very limited knowledge of the outside world. They’re not entirely ignorant of it.

        But remember that less than 100 years ago Europe was manipulated with hateful propaganda to the extent it was.

        Remember that even currently, with access to free interet, there are people who still refuse basic facts like the Earth not being flat.

        And you don’t think North Koreans may have been manipulated into thinking that we aren’t actually “free western democracies”, but evil monsters who rape babies while lying about “respecting human rights”.

        Like it is exceedingly fucking arrogant of you to assume that because “they’re living it bro” that they knows what’s going on. Like saying that if a woman is in a relationship where she gets beaten and raped that they chose to do that and that “they’d know where to get help if they wanted it.”

        What the fuck is wrong in dropping in information about the basic tenets of what we westerners claim to base our values on; valuing human rights in general, freedom, equal rights, democracy?

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        91·
        1 day ago

        Since porn is pretty quickly produced, we need to get a new sub category of porn where Western actors teach democratic history while having orgies

          • Dasus@lemmy.world
            1·
            5 hours ago

            “Today we’re gonna get to know the scocktractic method.”

            edit this was really shitty one but I’m gonna leave it there as punishment for myself. Doesn’t even really show the “Socratic” from all that mess

    • remotelove@lemmy.ca
      33·
      2 days ago

      libraries full of basic facts porn

      Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader 50 gallon drums of hard alcohol.

      If they don’t get seduced into surrendering, they have a higher chance of getting caught with their pants down… Regardless, I see it as a great way to cause confusion and disorder, anyway.

      • Zement@feddit.nl
        81·
        2 days ago

        Or spray almost pure LSD solution over their position and watch the mayhem from a distance which blasting the area with porn noises.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          4·
          1 day ago

          Yeah, don’t do that. Anyone who has taken LSD and isn’t a complete psychopath could tell you that this is evil shit.

          • Zement@feddit.nl
            3·
            14 hours ago

            Totally evil, almost impossible in practice, probably forbidden by the rules of war (which Russia shits on, weaponizing rape for example) but well… WELL deserved.

            Whatever people are in the trenches deserve pity but are complete brainwashed psychopaths.

            • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              1·
              3 hours ago

              Only if they’re notified that they’ve ingested a psychedelic drug, and that they will be ok in ~12 hours.

              People are still people, and dehumanizing them only furthers the goals of authoritarians/fascists.

              Being dosed with a powerful psychedelic, without ones knowledge, is one of the most inhumane things I can imagine that doesn’t involve direct physical contact.

              • Zement@feddit.nl
                1·
                30 minutes ago

                Yeah… those poor bastards probably had to endure a violent family as children (drunk dad, suicidal mom and generally a “boys will be boys” attitude against violence of all sorts.

                The war could end by simply stopping any trade with Russia and forcing china to do the same if they want to continue business with the West. But then money would be lost, and that is the true war crime of our time.

      • Makhno@lemmy.world
        8·
        2 days ago

        Perhaps occasionally a cheap e-reader 50 gallon drums of hard alcohol.

        Perfect to cut through all the meth

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 days ago

        Well yes, if the logistics are robust enough, that would be preferable.

        Edit but like genuinely the history of democracy and revolutions and whatnot would prolly be good to add for some post-wank reading material to spur on rebellious thought, even for people who don’t surrender. inception

  • Kaput@lemmy.world
    59·
    2 days ago

    I like that they used the old Communist style of esthetic to make it relatable to the Korean. Wonder what the art style is called

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    32·
    2 days ago

    Have any North Korean soldiers surrendered or allowed themselves to be taken prisoner? I recall that there was a heavily wounded soldier who was captured but later died of his wounds, but I haven’t heard about any other such incidents.

  • Empricorn@feddit.nlEnglish
    28·
    2 days ago

    Imagine traveling to another country to help the invading force try to capture it…