A massive increase in defense spending is set to hit Greenland in a move that would allow the Artic territory to fortify its military’s strength.
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20241225164949/https://www.rawstory.com/greenland-2670671719/
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Death to NATO. Its an objectively good thing for humanity. I don’t care if your boogey man also wants it, its a good thing
I’d prefer not to be at war with Russia, thanks
Too late
Just bc you aren’t on the battle field doesn’t mean you aren’t at war with Russia. The US and NATO are just using Ukrainians to fight their war
Because Ukrainians don’t have agency and only want to keep their own culture and language because some empire tells them to /s
I didn’t say that at all
You can both be exploited and have agency. The actions of the Ukrainian government also does not reflect the will of its people anymore to be clear.
Russia could end this fight any day it wants.
By leaving and ceasing all military action, right? And what would happen the next day?
What would happen the next day?
The resumed and emboldened massacre of eastern Ukranians by the banderite coup government, same as the decade that led up to this, except without even the tissue-thin veneer of western disapproval
You mean of Russian-Backed separatists?
https://web.archive.org/web/20230323083343/https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/documents/publications/mh17/map/2023/report-mh17
Yes, exactly. The Eastern Ukranians who got sick of being terrorized by marauding Azovites and petitioned Russia for protection will be slaughtered wholesale, man woman and child, and your only response is “well they shouldn’t have thrown in with the orcs for protection
” Perhaps the US-backed nazi government shouldn’t have spent ten years murdering them with no repercussions then? Just a thought.
Clearly, a government being aligned with Bad Country for any reason is enough for you to turn off your empathy completely. It’s no wonder you’re on the side of the goose-steppers and SS-applauders.
Absolute
If you’re in the US, you already are lol
But I’m not sure what that has to do with the fact that NATO should be dissolved
I’m not in the US
It has to do with the fact that my country exists because NATO protects it. Russia violates our airspace regularly.
Which country is that
Then “your country” shouldn’t exist. Its just a US vassal at that point anyway
As opposed to the Russian vassal it would’ve been if not?
Far better if the NATO backed coup that dissolved the USSR hadn’t happened
k man
All Russia has to do is stop being aggressive to its neighbors and NATO will automatically start falling apart. NATO support before Russia invaded Ukraine was decreasing.
Then why was it that when the Russian Federation asked to join NATO back in the 90’s they were refused?
What about when the Soviet Union asked to join back in like '48 was it denied?
Because it exists to be aggressive toward designated enemies of the US
America and 18 other countries invaded Russia in 1918 to restore the monarchy, kicking off a century of relentless aggression. They aren’t the ones who started this cycle and they’re not the ones with the power to stop it. We are.
There would probably be a manufactured excuse to keep it around. It seems like that’s already happening with the hyping up of a potential conflict with China.
I like that you’re sharing your opinion. I just want more information about it, so I can either agree or disagree. What about dissolving NATO would be “Good for humanity”?
Considerimg what’s literally happening right now, literally today, that’s a pretty hot take.
Considering NATO has been an enemy to humanity since its creation, its about as cold of a take as you can get
What is literally happening right now, literally today that you think should change people’s minds about not supporting nazis?
Millions of Ukrainians spending Christmas day without powered due to 70 missile attack from an aggressive neighbour.
I want to make very, very sure you read my entire comment. People spending Christmas without power is all it takes for you to put on the armband and throw your support behind the “gas em all 1488 racial holy war now” faction and become an enemy of like 98% of humanity? If so, incredible unprompted mask drop. Like, for real? Because that and worse happens in war all the time dude. You don’t see me growing a little tiny mustache just because I think Dresden was overkill. Would that have been enough to turn you into a hitlerite back then too?
NATO is literally a Nazi organization
Ask the Poles how the Soviets treated them
Don’t trust the Poles? Ask any number of victim countries brutalized.
That ‘boogeyman’ ex-KGB is doing it today to Ukraine…
NATO is just one manifestation of military industrial complex. Just getting rid of it without any global change it would be net negative for the humanity.
The primary issue with NATO is that it’s often misused by US for its own personal needs.
The primary purpose of NATO is to maintain western hegemony over the global south to better extract resources and profit from it. It being gone is a net good
Yes, the primary issue I mention is the purpose you are talking about. Thank you for repeating what I said. It being disbanded wouldn’t automatically be net positive, since despite the issues it creates, it does serve other valid purposes. You need to address systemic issues, not manifestations of those issues to solve anything. Because if not NATO, it would be another 4 letter organization doing exactly the same thing by exactly the same people.
Name one
How is any of that positive for humanity?
Because any war leads to human losses, so prevention of war is a good thing, not bad.
NATO does not prevent war. The term “defensive pact” is bullshit. NATO has always been a geopoltical aggressor. Its an appendage if US empire
You are not describing other purposes, you are describing means by which NATO pursues it’s one purpose. Also, what is your understanding of the word “imperialism”?
Yet another lib who thinks imperialism means expanding territory/any invasion
Obviously things are imperialism when Russians do them. Imps are closely related creatures to orcs and goblins.
Should be self-explanatory.
It’s not. What is your understanding of the word “imperialism”?
Name one negative consequence of the dissolution of NATO
https://lemmy.zip/comment/15535240
? But your precious NATO already exists and thats happening lol