• Magnetic_dud@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 hours ago

    It’s still compressesed on mastodon , I tried to post a 3072 x 4080 2mb jpeg and when downloaded from the post it’s now a 2499x3319 500k jpeg

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    12 hours ago

    Shit cost money for any platform.

    Even Lemmy convert images to .webp?

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      10 hours ago

      I’d love being able to just upload my 4.6MB image and getting it reduced down to sub 2MB, but I have to do that manually because Jerboa & co doesn’t do it nor accept bigger images than 2MB.

      Am I missing something?

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        7 hours ago

        Naah, Upload limit is instance wise like lemm.ee have 500kb. So, no it will not take 1mb file and reduce it to 500kb or less. That’s why I don’t even rely on default lemm.ee image upload. I just use my paid private image hoster.

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          I have my own lemmy instance with pictrs, still can’t use bigger images. Maybe it’s a hard limit or else every other instance will deny the “too big image”?

          I’m okay with that limit, it’s just a hassle you can’t share a bigger image and have it reduced in size automatically.

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    If someone really wants a RAW image of my crusty ass dog, for some reason, you can ask me to send it over something else. It’s a waste of bandwidth for the majority of photos, which are view once per person, and never again. Nobody can host that much data for free without some big catch.

    Dog.

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    Lossy compression is antiquated. Jpg should no longer be used as it’s not 1999. I will die on this mole hill.

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      I disagree, but I do agree that there are better options available than JPEG. Lossy compression is actually what allows much of the modern internet to function. 4K HDR content on Netflix wouldn’t be a thing without it. And lossy compression can be perceptually lossless for a broader range of use cases. Many film productions use high quality lossy formats in their production pipelines in order to be able to handle the vast amounts of data.

      Of course it all depends on the use case. If someone shares some photos or videos with me to keep, I’d like them to send the originals, whatever format they might be in.

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        I understand the need for compression and re-encoding but I stand by the claim we should not use a container that will eat itself alive a little bit every time it’s edited.

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      Yeah, let’s all post RAW 40MB photos right from the phone on … The Internet!

      What a good idea.

      Is there a specific reason? And subsidiary do you only listen to 96-bits FLAC too? Should video not be compressed either?

      I mean, I’m all in with you when it comes to storing my holiday photos, but sharing them? Not so much.

      That said, I grew up with 35kb jpgs so I’m kind of used to it, maybe I’m skewed.

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      Lossless compression doesn’t really do well for pictures of real life. For screenshots it’s ideal, but for complex images PNGs are just wayyyy to big for the virtually non noticeable difference.

      A high quality JPG is going to look good. What doesn’t look good is when it gets resized, recompressed, screenshotted, recompressed again 50 times.

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          I found quite a lot of AVIF encoders lied about their lossless encoding modes, and instead used the normal lossy mode at a very high quality setting. I eventually found one that did true lossless and I don’t think it ever managed to produce a file smaller than the input.

          Turns out, that’s a well known issue with the format. It’s just another case where Google’s marketing makes AVIF out to be fantastic, but in reality it’s actually quite mediocre.

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            They lied about the lossiness?! I can’t begin to exclaim loudly enough about how anxious this makes me.

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          jxl is a much better format, for a multitude of reasons beyond the article, but it doesn’t have much adoption yet. On the chromium team (the most important platform, unfortunately), someone seems to be actively power tripping and blocking it

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            Yeah Google is trying to keep control of their image format and they are abusing their monopoly to do so

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        I know compression has a lot of upsides, but I’ve genuinely hated it ever since broadband was a thing. Quality over quantity all the way. My websites have always used dynamic resizing, providing the resolution in a parameter, resulting in lightning fast load times, and quality when you need it.

        The way things are shared on the internet is with screenshots and social media, been like that for at least 15 years. JPG is just slowly deep frying the internet.

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    12 hours ago

    What is blue sky all about any fucking way, "no we need a corpo daddy and we want the same corpo daddy that ruined the world with Twitter.

    Hopefully he just keeps making them and selling them off. Dilute it down to nothing.