Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can’t remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you’re on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won’t bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you’re interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I’ll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I’m going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I’m going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the “Lhamana” and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a “middle” as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won’t go in detail here because I don’t feel qualified to summarize it, but it’s in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don’t refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn’t an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There’s probably some cultural significance to this, but I’m not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women’s work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

That’s all for now! To wrap thing up I would like to invite yall to our public matrix server! https://matrix.to/#/#tracha:chapo.chat

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  • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]
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    A while ago I thought I’d cracked the code with “you know what I think I just don’t like the idea of dating as a guy,” but then I slipped back into “no I’m definitely just aro.”

    The intersection of gender, romantic attraction, and sexual attraction can be frustrating at times. Have similar doubts. For me, I’ve suspected the reason I don’t want to date is I did not want to date within the social construction of being a guy and all the expectations society put on guys far longer than I had a clue I was an egg.

    Right after becoming confident in the ace label, my egg cracked and ruined that confidence. I still generally think I’m probably ace, but there’s now the nugget of doubt of “maybe its just because I don’t want to have sex with my current body.”

    I think for me, it helps to remember its not a binary of either black-stripe aroace or allosexual. There’s a whole spectrum to being aroace, and I’m at least pretty sure now that I’m somewhere in it. Granted, that doesn’t help with figuring out what sort of interpersonal relations I would want, but I figure that’s something to worry about later.

    • yewler [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Oh gosh also trying to figure out the asexual side on top of everything else sounds hard.

      I’m definitely on the aroace spectrum. Pretty unambiguously ace actually. And I definitely have a good deal of aro in me but it’s not nearly as cut and dry as the asexuality. And godddddd I’ve been trying to figure this out for years and I’ve just been going around in circles.