The language used by Chancellor Scholz is the harshest and most direct we have ever heard from him. He must be very angry indeed and I fully understand him.
Nah, he was way more furious when Macron hinted that European leaders should consider sending troops to Ukraine.
Are there any specifics as to what the major disagreement was on, or has been in the past? All the article has is:
The coalition leaders meeting was widely reported as a “make or break” meeting for the coalition, with Lindner, in particular, having hinted in the run-up that he was not too worried about the latter.
In his reaction to Scholz’s scathing remarks, Lindner accused the chancellor of a “calaculated break-up of the coalition” and his coaliton partners of “not even accepting” the FDP’s proposals for turning the economy around “as a basis for discussion”. Discord about how to revive an ailing economy
The coalition had been at odds for a while, with serious strains on the budget for 2025 and a disappointing performance by the German economy eliciting increasingly different suggestions on how to face and solve the problems.
So I’m assuming that Lindner wants more-economically-liberal policy than Scholz does?
Is there reason to believe that there’s sufficient public support in elections to form a red-green coalition, or is it likely that the SDP and Greens would be out of government in a new election?
kagis
https://theweek.com/politics/german-economy-crisis-volkswagen
A snap election could be “disastrous for all three coalition parties,” said Reuters. SDP and the Greens have lost support since the 2021 election, and the FDP “could be ejected from parliament altogether.” But the dispute involves fundamental differences: FDP wants budget cuts, while the other two parties “agree that targeted government spending is needed to stimulate the economy,” Reuters said.
That doesn’t sound very good for them.
If they’re out, and the AfD has been at record-high levels of support, does that mean maybe an incoming AfD government?
AfD in charge of Germany would be the double seal of confirmation that we’re in one of the bad timelines.
Currently polling would basicaly mean the center right CDU/CSU would be chancellor, with a coalition with either the social democrats or Greens. Both would be enough for some comfortable leads. The AFD could also be an option, but I highly doubt it.
Lindner has been torpedoing this coalition every chance he got, for years. He’s a blatant hypocrite, an industry mole without morals or principles who only cares about deregulation for his billionaire constituents. He took it as his responsibility to undermine and tranquilize a progressive government during an already scary shift towards right-wing populism.
AfD is far behind the CDU at a national level, and if the center left vote was united they would also be comfortably behind that hypothetical coalition. The problem is that with current opinion polls the government would probably need to be an equally unstable coalition between CDU, SPD, and Greens.
Were do you get your polls. Current average would be easily enough for CDU and SPD or Greens. So a two party coalition, which would probably work rather well. https://dawum.de/Bundestag/
It really depends on the poll( https://www.wahlrecht.de/umfragen/ ) depending on which poll you take its very likely a close call if CDU and SPD can form a coalition. However I think its quite unlikely they would take the greens after everything the CDU said about them.
No, it is not. 5% hurdle means Linke, FDP and the other small parties will not get seats. In some polls they have combined 16% of the vote. So the coalition does not need 50% of the vote, but a bit less then 45%.
Currently I think its much more likely that the CDU will form a coalition with SPD and BSW than with the greens.
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I guess integrating YouTube-videos with “!” does not work for kbin and also fails for Lemmy and its apps. I think it would be better just to post the link without the markdown notation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dLkmkSffFoinstead ofIt’s just mbin now. And just posting the link does not give an embedded player.
Ah now I see it. That mbin webinterface actually embedds it. Jerboa just provides an unloadable picture instead. And the lemmy webinterface displays the url but not as an usable link.
The link in this message is totally fucked up in the lemmy webinterface. 😀
The
https://fedia.iopart is the actual link, the/m/europe.orgpart is linked tohttps://feddit.org/c/europe@feddit.organd everything after that is just plain text.Yeah, you’d have to open a Github issue for Lemmy & Jerboa for that, if there isn’t one already. No idea why they parse URLs this badly.
There he was louder/yelling but what he said is in my opinion way less „direct“. But yes, thats also one of Scholzes stronger moments.
Unfortunately the best part is cut out and I can’t find a longer version of this at the moment but he’s at some point pretty aggressively calling out the hecklers alleged “pacifism”.
Should have already done that a second after going into Ampel coalition
Hindsight is always 20/20 but I still think it could have worked. Greens and liberals aren’t natural enemies, climate reforms can be done via methods from the free market. A proper carbon certificate trade is still something I think could work wonders if done right and redistributing the acquired money to all citizens would have been in line with the social considerations of the SPD. This should have been the project of the traffic light coalition. Now we all now the liberals are a bunch of lying, opportunistic fucks, okay, but it could have worked if only they had tried.
You don’t need any hindsight to know what the FDP is going to do when you invite them into government. They will do what they have always done: Maximally corrupt clientele policy for the 1%. That’s what they did the last time they had the chance. And the time before. Whenever they do that, they’ll of course lose popularity, but that won’t hurt them, because the “donations” from their rich clients will keep flowing. They will simply lay low for a few election periods until the public has forgotten what they did and run a flashy campaign specifically targeting dumb first time voters to get back.
At that point you wouldn’t need to form the coalition in the first place. They tried, that’s fair. But they should’ve stopped this much sooner. I bet all the leaks back then were also all from Lindner. He and the FDP acted way too entitled for being the smallest coalition partner.
It was worth a try and could have worked well under different circumstances.
