• DarkCloud@lemmy.world
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    A lot of the commenters seem like they would have denounced the french resistance as being terrorists.

    I don’t think people really understand why “terrorism” and guerilla tactics happen - they come about when there’s massive power imbalances.

    No government is perfect, leadership and political factionalism gets particularly bad during war, as do the various inhumanities and war crimes. Usually in the hands of the greater power dehumanization is involved in the desire to exterminate, in the lesser power a seething revenge and fearless demand for the right to life to the point of wanting to exterminate the enemy totally.

    It is very much true that “one man’s freedom fighter is another’s terrorist”…

    …but in the end we have humans killing humans, and that’s the real problem. A problem which is currently serving the US military industrial complex which Israel is contractualy obliged to preference, and much of the US funding for Israel is spent back into that industry.

    The war pigs get fat on human blood, and they don’t really care whose it is, as long as there’s a lot of it. Meanwhile Israel can be seen as aligning with US geopolitical interests, seeking the destabilization of Russias allies and perhaps even annexing oil resources. This is modern rationale for mass killings and war.

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    As someone who has a very walled off opinion on this stuff, I’d say we name the whole Gaza-Israel thing WARioland and wall it off. Maybe put a glass globe over it and podcast it. We could then name it "Hunger-Games“, because food will be scarce. And, with enough advertising, it would make a profit. Just imagine the podcast stopping and a commentator saying “This handgranade was brought to you by Northrop Grumman” when a grenade is thrown lol

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    You should add a palestinian tank along with the other tanks, and replace that palestine flag at the front with hamas’. Palestinian should stand along with other western countries in fighting hamas.

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      Oh strange did Hamas colonize Palestine in 1948 and lock people up in a concentration camp where they systematically Genocide them?

      I must be very uninformed.

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        Yes you are indeed uninformed. There are no concentration camps in palestine. Not in 1948, and not even now.

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        You are more informed on some things than others, how much do you get paid to spread propaganda before a US election? Where do you go when the election is over?

        These are the pressing questions lemmy is dying for.

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          Everyone that cares about stuff I don’t is faking it and must be paid to care cause I only care about money instead of other humans.

          Real nuanced take. Not really sure you get Sonder and understand empathy.

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          Sadly I don’t get paid to raise awareness to an ongoing Genocide. I hear doing Genocide apologia for the regime pays good money though. Do they send “additional information” along with the cheques?

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    Without the 7 of october, this comics would be right. But after that, adding a Hamas fighter with a Kalashnikov hiding behind the Palestinian civilian would be more accurate.

    The horrors Hammas did that day was cruel and inhuman, and so does the Israeli responce since then. In such a situations, it is difficult to chose a side.

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      Palestinian doesn’t mean “hamas fighter”!

      You saw a drawing of a person holding a Palestine flag and you are writing about Hamas.

      Palestine and it’s people were there before Hamas and they will still be there long after Hamas and Israel is history.

      Israel = genocide + apartheid

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        Palestinian doesn’t mean “hamas fighter”!

        That’s exactly what I mean by adding the Hamas fighter behind the Palestinian civilian, and not making him a Hamas fighter.

        You saw a drawing of a person holding a Palestine flag and you are writing about Hamas.

        Because Hamas is responsible as much as the Israeli government about the current situation. Putting a lone Palestinian here push the narrative that no one did anything wrong on their side, which isn’t true.

        Palestine and it’s people were there before Hamas and they will still be there long after Hamas and Israel is history.

        I hope so for Hamas, but for Israel it is more complicated. If there was a solution that would allow both side to live together as equal, I’d support it fully. But just making Israel disappear won’t resolve anything.

        Israel = genocide + apartheid

        Exactly. As would be a Palestinian state dominated by Hamas or its allies.

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        The hamas is not a government.

        Hum… In Gaza they used to be exactly a government. Not a democratic one, but one imposed by Israel.

        … what I’m sure the GP wouldn’t like to hear either.

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        Not anymore, after being mostly whipped out by the Israeli military.

        Nor the Israeli government, or the Iran aligned armed groups (Hamas, Hezbollah) are worth of being supported, the only worthy side is those who wish for peaceful and respectful cohabitation.

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          the only worthy side is those who wish for peaceful and respectful cohabitation.

          So you support Hamas?

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            If you’d take a look at Hamas ideology, I’d call that far from peaceful and respectful.

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              Hamas supports a peaceful resolution and two state solution. They had a very nice peaceful march in 2019. Similar to the west bank. Even Hamas recent statements are very reasonable and try to reach a peaceful resolution.

              Say ,which party is the violent one which tries to expand their Lebensraum and refuses all attempts at peace again? I recall there being an order for a party to directly distantle all their illegal colonies in the West Bank.

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                Then should I suppose that killing civilians, men, women and children on the 7th of October was a way the peacefully resolve the issue? (Note that this also applies to the Israeli response since too).

                Both side has showed they have no intention of peacefully resolve the issue. They both know that their power depends on keeping the hate alive, and fuel each other perfectly.

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                  Then should I suppose that killing civilians, men, women and children on the 7th of October was a way the peacefully resolve the issue?

                  Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.

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                  There is a difference between a peaceful resolution and a peaceful resistance.

                  Hamas tried the peaceful resistance in 2019. Do look up how Israel responded.

                  Better yet, look at the West Bank right now. Tell me how that peaceful resistance is working out against israel.

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        Easy to call out someone as tanky when you chose to illustrate one side horrors while being willfully blind to the other side ones.