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    Democrats did this by not codifying

    This kind of gaslighting should not be tolerated. Everyone take a moment and block that troll.

    That’s like saying that the burgler that bypassed your locks by smashing a window is fully justified because you didn’t put cages over the glass. Reproductive rights were protected by 50 years of precedent. Roe was established case law for decades and was overturned by a court that rejected how the judicial branch was working and has worked for centuries by ignoring precedent, accepting a case on weak standing to challenge it, and arguing that the established case law was wrong on shakey arguments.

    Don’t let right-wing nuts lie to you about objective reality.

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      How can you simultaneously claim that abortion was protected only by precedent, yet the democrats did everything in their power to preserve it?

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        Oh you’re trying so hard to build a strawman! How adorable.

        Roe was established case law. Reproductive rights were settled. Blaming Democrats when the actions of Republicans baselessly dismissed it is moronic.

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            They have. In the seven states that have put abortion issues on the ballot since 2022, every single one has supported abortion, including red states: Montana, Kentucky, Kansas, and Ohio.

            10 states have abortion issues in their ballots this year. Abortion access is being picked up faster than “Constitutional Carry” did.

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            You may wish to observe that the Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives, meaning the Democratic Caucus lacks the votes to reinstate it.

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              And, in states with Democratic majorities, they are codifying it at the state level. Sucks for the rest of us, though. I’m moving out of one of them for many reasons, but one important one is for my children.

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                Lots of red states are pushing for a vote on it and passing, too. It’s wild seeing “vote no on amendment 3” signs here in Missouri as if it’s not just advertising for the majority of us to show up and shut these chucklefucks up. I’m hoping that’s how it’ll go anyway 😓

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                  Crossing my fingers for you! I’m hoping that Harris and certain single issue referenda (like marijuana) will bring people to the polls and while they’re there, they’ll vote for women’s rights.

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                    11 hours ago

                    Same! There’s some interesting measures on our ballot that I’m making videos on to raise awareness for like rank choice voting. If you know anyone from Missouri have them check out my YouTube or TikTok! Links are in my profile:)

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              None of these things keep democrats from stacking courts.

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                IDK how that would possibly happen with Manchin and Sinema in there. It seems easier to pass a federal law.

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        Logically, the answer would have to be that Democrats lack the power to preserve it. Which happens to be true because:

        1. Ordinary legislation would not be sufficient to overturn state laws regarding abortion due to the 10th Amendment, and even if it was the 2/3 Republican court would overturn it anyway.
        2. A constitutional amendment would require a 2/3 majority that Democrats will not have in this lifetime.
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          And so why weren’t the courts getting stacked the moment Biden took office?

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            Two reasons:

            1. Ethics
            2. The GOP engaged in a campaign of doing everything, fair and foul, to prevent or at least slow this from happening.