• Bezier@suppo.fi
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      I find victim blaming counterproductive. It would be more helpful to discuss stronger consumer protection laws.

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      Ehh…iOS is arguably the most secure mobile operating system (excluding something like GrapheneOS) currently on the market.

      I don’t give a shit what brand you use, because I don’t have brand loyalty, but I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks. Shitting on the consumer here does no good. All consumers deserve the same amount of consumer protection, regardless of which tech overlord they happen to purchase their hardware from.

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        I can see valid reasons for why someone might want to use Apple Macbooks

        I use one because I write apps for iOS and you can only do that on a Macbook. It doesn’t make me a fanboi.

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        Shitting on the consumer here does no good.

        It absolutely does help to remind them that they’re victims of their own poor choices.

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          By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning? I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight for change in food safety standards than mock those who got sick.

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            By that rationale, we should be blaming those who picked a certain brand of hamburger meat for getting salmonella poisoning?

            Is this hypothetical hamburger brand notorious for having salmonella in their burgers? Because yes. Absolutely.

            I would think we’d want to push responsibility on the corporation and governmental oversight

            Yeah, of course we would. This is a false dichotomy though. You don’t have to choose one or the other.

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          We shouldn’t blame the victims that society failed to properly educate. You’re right that if people intimately understood apple the way you probably do, they’d never buy an apple product. I would argue, however, that it’s a failing of education not an informed choice to be corporately cucked.

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            When people willfully choose to buy products from a known anti-consumer companies, they are victims of their own poor choices. They do know, and they choose to buy them anyway. I know because they’ll freely admit this to me.

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              The thing about rational actors, is when given the same information they should make the same choices. I would argue that they’re most likely, instead, just at the peak of mt. stupid