• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    Feudalism is entirely different from Capitalism, which is entirely different from Socialism. Class dynamics have changed, and will change.

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      Feudalism is entirely different from Capitalism

      Not really, no. Even though feudalism doesn’t consider greed and resource hoarding inherently virtuous like capitalism does, both are at their core about the few rich and powerful exploiting and abusing the many poor and powerless through ownership of the necessities for life and a greater capacity for violence.

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          7 months ago

          There are differences, yes, but they’re built on the same foundation and as such by definition NOT fundamentally different.

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            They don’t have the same foundation. Aristocrat/serf dynamics are entirely different from Bourgeois/Proletarian relations.

            Reading Marx would help you.

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              7 months ago

              Aristocrat/serf dynamics are entirely different from Bourgeois/Proletarian relations.

              They most certainly aren’t.

              Reading Marx would help you.

              I have. Guess what: he wasn’t right about everything.

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                Serfs have a certified existence, they do not sell their labor in a market. They work their land, without participating in Capitalism.

                Proletarians do not have a certified existence. They compete against each other in a labor market.

                The difference is stark despite both being working classes.

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        7 months ago

        It’s a fundamentally different stage of class society with fundamentally different mechanics.

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          Fundamentally different? Lords are still in control, just now we call them “Billionaires” and act like the “Market” protects us.

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            Unlike serfs, workers must compete with each other as well as Capitalists. The Market protects nobody but the interests of Capital.