I know this topic has been discussed a lot before, but in my opinion there is no simple answer to this question.
Lately, I have been a bit disappointed with my Nikon DSLR kit (D3200) and thus Iāve been considering an upgrade. I got it many years ago, and it is undoubtedly a great, affordable camera that produces great images. Iāve had lots of fun with it and I canāt complain about its performance when shooting ā given ideal conditions. When I am shooting more challenging subjects, however, I feel a bit hindered by my camera body/system. The points that bother me the most are:
- Size. The D3200 is a very nice, compact, and lightweight DSLR, but it is still relatively big compared to modern cameras. It wonāt fit in a jacket pocket even without an attached lens. More current cameras with a higher image quality can be smaller than it is (but heavier). The situation is even worse for higher-end DSLRs.
- Autofocus. Again, the D3200 is a fantastic camera if you are just using the center focus spot using the optical viewfinder and nothing else. Live view (contrast) focus is straight up unusable, and there are only 11 (phase) focus points or so if using the viewfinder. At least thatās the case with āordinaryā Nikon lenses. I donāt know how it performs with higher-end lenses, like the Sigma Art line.
- āLow lightā performance. I canāt bump the ISO significantly before image degradation becomes obvious. Low light in quotes because thatās the case even in fairly well-lit situations. Occasionally, I like to print on medium-sized paper (A3+), and if I need anything above ISO 400 to properly expose the image, it wonāt look that good printed. Of course, I can always stick to printing bright images large and save the ālow lightā scenes to smaller prints, so this isnāt really my main concern.
- Custom controls. I wish I could customize the camera settings a bit more. For example, on my camera, the back button AF/AE can be set to lock the AF/AE or as a back button focus. But in image preview mode, the same button ālocksā the image so it canāt be deleted. Thus, you need to quit image preview before using that button to trigger autofocus again. I would like to have a dedicated AF button so I can shoot straight from image preview if the opportunity arises. Another example of customization I canāt do: settings like auto-ISO and shutter speed canāt be capped/limited to a certain range. Letās say I want to use auto-ISO but prevent it from going above 400 to avoid too much noise (and decrease shutter speed but risk shaky images). Or the opposite: prevent the shutter speed in aperture priority mode from going below 1/100 to avoid shaky images and then change ISO instead. Well, I canāt do either at the moment. Again, a nice feature to have, but totally something I can live with.
From what I have seen, cameras nowadays have gotten pretty good and they do look like a significant upgrade from 10-15 year old bodies. I guess all popular, entry-level, modern cameras (2019-) solve at least 3 of the 4 problems I listed above, so I donāt think I can go wrong with any big brand. However, Iām having a hard time deciding with so many options and sensor size/formats available. My options so far are:
- Nikon Z. Since I am already familiar with Nikon F lenses, I have read a lot about them and I know the strengths and weaknesses of many of those. That means I likely wonāt be disappointed if I switch to another system, and I want a certain lens that doesnāt exist, or the optical performance is poor, or it is prohibitively expensive. The Z50, Z5, and Z6 all look amazing, and I can pick or switch between a full frame or cropped sensor easier than I would if I was stuck with a micro four thirds. They are more affordable than Sony.
- Sony. They seem to be fantastic cameras, with great image quality and features. Sigma and Tamron options for Nikon are likely available for Sony as well. Iām just slightly afraid that lenses might be too expensive for what they offer. Their cameras look super compact and pocketable, which is a huge plus to me. Full frame (A7iii) or cropped (A6400) are also both available for a seamless transition.
- Olympus. I think it is impossible to beat micro four thirds in size and affordability. It is perhaps the only system where you can get a wide angle, portrait, fast prime, macro, and telephoto that you can take everywhere in a small bag while not costing you a fortune. They also have pretty nice features, such as the ālive modeā/āsmartphone photographyā, where you can get a frame that was captured slightly before the shutter button was pressed. This must be so cool for wildlife. Olympus stabilization is also highly regarded, with people claiming it to be āgimbal-likeā. The E-M5 iii looks very appealing. My main concern is that Iāve never used a micro four thirds before and thus I donāt know how much Iām letting go in image quality. I already feel that the dynamic range I get with the D3200 rocking a larger, cropped sensor could be better.
I am not considering:
- Canon. I completely disagree with their āno third party lensesā policy. To me, that is unacceptable.
- Fujifilm. There are barely any telephoto options and they are one of my favorite lens types to use.
- Panasonic. I like what I read about the Lumix cameras, but they seem to be behind Olympus regarding micro four third still-focused cameras (apart from the G9). And I donāt know much about the L-mount.
- Hasselblad, Leica, etc. Too expensive. I want something that I can take with me everywhere and not worry too much if it gets damaged.
I would appreciate if you all could help me figure this out! Especially people who have used more than one modern mirrorless system or have recently transitioned from DSLR to mirrorless. Many thanks in advance!
Edited to add:
I forgot to describe how exactly I use my camera. I mostly shoot:
- āLifestyleā photos, like something cool Iāve seen while biking to work, walking in the park, visiting museums, etc.
- Hiking, biking, backpacking photos, like landscape, close ups, macro, wildlife, etc.
- Birds of all sizes.
- Occasionally, street photography if thereās some cool event going on.
- I do like to shoot video, so something that would be 4K capable would be great.
Heh yeahā¦ my supertelephoto is a commitment. I only carry it when I know that wildlife photos are what Iām doing. Ended up getting a monopod and a peak designs slide strap to help mitigate some of the weight. So I can sling it over my shoulder and carry it on my back now which helps. Highly recommend their strap system stuff if you havenāt tried itā¦ definitely lived up to the hype for me. I kept wanting another interchangeable lens camera for other days so M43 seemed like a good choice for my use case.
Youāre talking about wanting to do low light and particularly low light videoā¦ the newer sony stuff will just about blow anyone else away. Iāve heard good stuff about the panasonicās newer stuffā¦ but sony is known for that. From what Iāve seen the quality of their sensor noise when it does start showing is more pleasantā¦ more impulse noise than colorā¦ so youāll get salt and pepper noise which looks more like old film grain which can make things look more cinematic even.
If you want to compare dynamic range and usable ISO, DXOmark has lots and lots of charts for that sort of thing. I wouldnāt take their stuff as the end all be allā¦ read it more like a spec sheet so you can compare two different things. https://www.dxomark.com/sony-a6000-sensor-review-little-wonder/
The a6xxx series definitely sits at a reasonable price point for the bodies. IDK that much about their lenses or prices for thatā¦ but it does look like you could get a body for $300-600 on mpb in excellent condition. I have heard good things about the a6xxx series as well, so it could very well be a good jumping in point if you wanted to get into their ecosystem. Looks like DPReview did a few videos about that series of camerasā¦ Iād check those out for sure. They like to split their videos into several sectionsā¦ and have equal time for stills and video which will give a really good rundown of things usually.
My next purchase if I were to keep the super telephoto would definitely be a big tripod/monopod combo. But I just sent it to KEH to fund the new body and lenses Iām getting. Letās see how it goes. Thanks for the Peak Design strap recommendation. I have the clip and quick release anchor links, and I must say I love both accessories. Iāll make sure to check out the strap on my next trip to REI.
Regarding shooting video, there are basically two situations where I use the video mode:
Recording birds when itās early or late in the day. For that, I would need low light performance. But even if the image is noisy, who cares. It bothers me more when my mic captures noise from other people around.
B-roll for my outdoor trips (biking, hiking, snow sports, etc) to complement my action camera stuff. My gopro sucks in low light anyway, so I donāt care if my B-roll video camera is going to suck as well. I shoot in 4K on it, so I feel like action videos with some cinematic depth of field from a mirrorless camera in 4K would look very nice as B-roll.
Actually, I just got back from my trip to the camera store to check out what they had available. I got to test Nikon, Sony, Olympus, and Panasonic. Basically all the camera models I had in mind.
In summary, I have ruled out all bigger camera bodies for now. So, Iāll have to pick between Sony A6x00 series, Panasonic GX or Olympus E-M5. Iāll follow your advice and think about it further after checking out what sources like DPReview have to say.
Included a picture of my 7D2 with 50mm next to my EM52 with 42mm to see the size difference āIRLā. Thought it might be a fun comparison.
I wish I had some more useful information about the video side of things but itās really not my thing. The a7 (starting with the 3 or 4 idr) have been touting the dual native ISO thing which would be applicable to your low light videoā¦ but youāre talking about the more expensive and slightly larger bodies.
A little of that is probably because itās what youāre used toā¦ but a big thing about those larger bodies is that they are made to be comfortable in the hand. One of the reasons I wanted to upgrade from a mid DSLR to a full DSLR was to that it felt better in my hand to hold especially with larger lenses on it. Itās always a trade off between ergonomics and size / weight. Something to consider is that many cameras have things you can add or change to adjust the ergonomics to a degree. The EM5 was just a tad too small for my hand but I got a little, inexpensive handle that adds like a centimeter to the bottom and a bit of a grip and now itās great to hold one handed. I wouldnāt buy something that you hated but thereās definitely things you can do to adjust them.
Yeahā¦ rangefinder style bodies are definitely going to feel more āportableā. You sacrifice some of the in hand ergonomics, but if you arenāt holding it for an hour or two straight staring at a bird waiting for it to do somethingā¦ itās less of an issue lol. One of the points between the olympus em5ii and the lumix gx8 I was tossing around was the body style. The rangefinder style does feel different and slim for an EDC sorta camera for sure.
The conversation about olympus vs panasonic circles around the lens stabilization a lot because they choose different methods and have evolved from that. On the older style cameras like my EM5II they chose to go with IBIS (full 5axis which has been really nice coming from a DSLR) so they donāt include any stabilization in their brand lenses. That means their lenses can be half the size and weight which is really cool. It also means I get some stabilization on manual 3rd party lenses which is nice. The newer panasonic like the G9II, IIRC, handle IBIS on non-first party lenses better than olympus in their current flagshipsā¦ but itās one of those things where you have to look at each one. The cool thing is that M43 is M43ā¦ while you might have a lenses and camera combo here and there that isnāt greatā¦ mostly theyāre interchangeable so you could get a small, cheap Olympus and later get a brand new panasonic and the lenses would still fit (which was my plan heh).
It might be worth considering having more than one camera as the end goal. I realized I wouldnāt get everything I wanted from one camera because having a large ergonomic dslr with nearly infinite battery lifeā¦ and a tiny light mirrorless were mutually exclusive. With used sites it has gotten a lot more reasonable to have a couple systems. It sounds like the sony is really appealing to you and if you were going to buy into two systems Sony and M43 would be a solid choice, IMHO. Youāre going to have a good selection of bodies and lenses on the sony side so you can get some nice lenses and then update bodies if you want to later on. Also with how popular their stuff is I would imaging you wouldnāt have a hard time selling your system if you changed your mind in a couple years either. M43 being an open standard has multiple manufacturers on board so it has a lot of good lens choices. There are some fun āartisticā lens makers like 7artisans and laowa making some interesting stuff and they usually make for sony and M43 so if you got into any of those your bases are covered.
I have heard those 3 choices recommended over and over online. I donāt think you can really go wrong with any of them. The video side is going to be the biggest sticky point with the older bodies. Even getting the EM5II I still kind of want a GX8ā¦ thereās a couple features I like and the body style is appealing. Iām beginning to see why all these camera youtubers have a wall of tiny cameras behind them lol. Alsoā¦ ālens acquisition syndromeā ā¦ the struggle is real haha.
If you decide you like that system it definitely has a few fun things you can attach to those clips. Iāve got those little red dots hanging off all my stuff now. I got a hand grip (see picture above) on my DSLR. I got the wrist strap for the EM5II. I got the full size āslideā for my DSLR. I am considering getting one of the smaller ones or the adapter clips for the EM5II. I love the ability to add and remove as I go depending on how and what I want to carry. If you go to their site, they sell directly as wellā¦ and more importantly they have a ālast callā for last years models that are being clearanced out as well as a certified and fully warrantied āpre-ownedā section. I have gotten some good deals from them and all the pre-owned stuff has looked brand new but half priced. https://www.peakdesign.com/
Ha, nice comparison between the huge Canon and the tiny Olympus.
Iāve definitely seen people selling bodies with those handles on Craigslist. From what Iāve noticed, they are pretty popular as a modular solution to improve handling. Iāll definitely look into getting one regardless of my ultimate choice, since it will be a small camera.
Also, Iām aware of the Olympus vs Panasonic IBIS stuff, it is definitely something Iām taking into consideration because I guess IBIS might be better than OIS in general for the reasons you mentioned. The GX8 has IBIS, but Iām sure it pales in comparison to the E-M5iii (5 axis). I agree that it is great to just be able to add a more powerful body (like the G9ii) to your setup without having to use different lenses. Big plus for M43, since thereās no difference in sensor size.
You mentioned
This is what Iām starting to realize. Iām definitely inclined to try out both Sony and M43 because they both shine at their own individual strengths. As you said, a rangefinder-style body is very nice as an EDC, while a bigger SLR style camera would do well for shooting-only days. Itās great that you mention 7artisans and Laowa, those look like a lot of fun to me, definitely one of the reasons I want to switch to mirrorless.
At the moment, Iām trying to decide between Sony A6x00 (A6100 or A6400), or M43, either GX8 or E-M5iii. My local shop has a used GX8 available that I will probably check out. If I were to get a Sony or Olympus, it would have to be through MPB or UsedPhotoPro due to availability. Iāll think about it and make a decision. My starting point would be one of the three options below:
Plus one budget telephoto for whatever ākitā I end up deciding to get. But Iām definitely inclined to invest in both systems in the long term.
About Peak Design,
Thatās a great tip! I didnāt know that was a thing. Iām browsing their pre-owned section now, thatās actually amazing. Thank you for sharing!
Well, now I guess Iāll start considering those three options and I might update the post once I have a more informed opinion. Iām not too worried because Iām sure all those three options are great cameras. Iāll watch some videos and look at the side-by-side specs comparison spreadsheet more carefully.
I have this lens for my EM5ii and it is quite sharp and tiny af. Thatās whatās showing in that picture I posted, if you hadnāt noticed. It extends when in use about 2x but still small. I have mixed feelings about the EZ portion of it but overall itās a really nice little lens for just wandering around. With the crop factor itās a 28-84mm which is a nice range for just an all around lens to do landscape, street, portrait. That bee photo I posted was that lensā¦ the MFD is like 9 inches.
I grabbed a couple videos comparing the mark ii and the mark iii from some more M43 focused youtubers that Iāve liked just to give some comparison for you talking about those specific cameras.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biOmDEROWJ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh96vJ5MQEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bid2fAIxkNY
I was looking for a lumix GX8 but a couple big deciding factors for me were: better IBIS, weather sealing, and price. I could find the EM5II for 400ishā¦ but the GX8 was staying around 600.
I donāt know sony line-up at all really. The M43 side has some really cheap (even brand new) zooms that are well reviewed. a lot of the 40ish-140ish range (before 2x). Kind of puts you into that 70-300mm equivalency which is a really solid āwalk around and take some wildlife picturesā sorta lens for meā¦ and these are like the size of a soda can! Keep debating just getting oneā¦ bhphoto has them new for like $130 on a sale right nowā¦ mpb has been sitting around 80-100 in āexcellentā condition. Only reason I havenāt is because I have those telephotos for my canon and it feels silly to duplicate heh.
Absolutely. :) I kept hearing how good the peak design āslideā was and vacillated for a long time because of the price. Glad I jumped on it though, Iāve been really happy. I have a ton of their stuff now and I love how they use that same quick connector and always give you a couple more than you need for putting on other stuff. They even sell a pack now of just the latch system so you can use it to adapt existing camera straps if you want for a cheaper alternative, which is kinda cool.
Something else I was going to bring upā¦ there are a lot of camera and lens rental shops aroundā¦ depending on prices you might be able to rent something to test out if they keep it in stock. Might be that these cameras are too oldā¦ IDK.
Another thing is you might find after a year of using that this or that feature is lacking or unused or whatever. I didnāt think I needed a smaller camera for a while but I find myself this year wanting to just walk in the park with a little camera some days which spurred me on. You might find that you just enjoy whatever one you want and then want to fill the gaps with something else. These āused but checked and warrantiedā sites like mpg et al really put my mind at east buying used gear so I felt like a lot of the pressure of price was eased.
Iāve been watching an insane amount of M43 videos lately.
Right now, I kind of feel like that the performance beast (high image quality days) + pocket rangefinder (travel or daily carry) is a really attractive setup, like Lumix G9 plus GX85, or E-M1X plus E-M5 III. I also found that I can indeed get all the lenses that I want (with professional quality) for under $2k (wide kit, two fast primes, macro, telephoto). Yes, that whole setup would be really light and small, to the point where camera and two or three lenses can be inconspicuously carried around in pockets.
I donāt want to spend a ton, but I also think that I should āgo big or go homeā. I want to feel the improvement, but without breaking the bank. Basically, my options remain the same (E-M5 III, GX85, etc). Iām trying to find something close to ~$500, and Iāll make a final decision after KEH pays me if they really are keeping my Nikon lenses.
That was honestly great, Iām impressed. Iāve seen macro photos people have taken on M43, and they look great all the way from wide-angle to telephoto range. I guess the deeper depth of field and image stabilization is a huge plus for handheld macro, even though a full frame setup (with a different lens) will clearly capture more light and push the ISO further (or use a flash).
Yes, I would aim for 450mm+ full frame equivalent. From experience, I feel like 450mm in full frame is great, 600mm isnāt much of an upgrade, and 800mm is awesome (but heavy).
For Sony, the best I could do on a budget would be the Tamron 70-300mm ($500 new, say $350 used) and the Sigma 100-400mm ($850 new, say $600 used).
For M43, thereās the Olympus 75-300mm ($550 new, say $400 used) and the Panasonic 100-300mm ($650 new, say $500 used).
Options arenāt bad for either, considering crop factor, size, and price. I would say they are virtually tied, with APS-C having a slight edge on image quality and video autofocus, and M43 winning on either reach (considering the 70-300mm) or weight and bulk (considering the 100-400mm without the hood) .
I would probably get one of those ādo-it-allā lenses youāre talking about, as well. They would be great travel assets, I think. But to be honest, Iām unsure how much of an improvement that would be, considering that carrying a wide plus a telephoto lenses is no big deal anyway if they are M43.
Unfortunately, shops around me only rent full frame flagship legends, so Iām out of luck. Thereās a local Olympus āborrow our equipment for free for 4 daysā program, though. But they only lend their newest releases. I couldnāt find an option to borrow both an OM-5 body and an all-purpose lens. Tomorrow Iāll call them and see if thatās possible.
Thatās exactly why Iām hesitant to commit to one system or the other. Iām asking myself ādo I really need something this light and tiny? Maybe I donāt, perhaps my current setup is already small enough and I wonāt care much about a smaller camera. But maybe I do, and it will be a game changer when I realize itā. The same thing for creepy Sony eye-tracking autofocus. Who knows if I will simply not care or absolutely love it. Thereās a possibility that Iāll hate Panasonic contrast-only autofocus (I know itās straight up unusable on my Nikon D3200, while the D500 puts every other camera out there to shame). I might also not care the least and even forget that I donāt have phase contrast AF. Well, the list goes on and on; IBIS, high-resolution mode, focus stacking, bracketing, flippy screen, yadda yadda yadda.
I guess Iāll only find out when I pull the trigger on one of those. Options are too volatile right now, on all platforms: Craigslist, eBay, Roberts Camera, KEH, MPB, etc. Iāll have consider my options carefully when I get my money from KEH.
What Iāve seen is,
Iāll start with one of those bodes plus an all-purpose wide to mid range zoom and see how I like it for āeverydayā stuff.
hahaā¦ I feel you. I binge watch videos about stuff when Iām researching it.
I really couldnāt come up with a āperfect cameraā that covered every baseā¦ and honestly I think itās physically impossible for me. I like the feel of the larger full size DSLR bodies in hand and I like the little tiny M43ā¦ so having two makes the most sense for me. Since Iām fine with older bodies the prospect of getting two cameras for less than buying one new camera is appealing. Just a noteā¦ the Lumix GX8 is an upgrade over the GX85 in a few ways without being THAT much bigger, so might look at that. I really leaned into picking a āsystemā. I love my EM5II so farā¦ but I know these lenses will work if I get a Lumix G9II or OM-1 later on so I feel better about investing. Itās the same with my canonā¦ Iāve almost exclusively gotten EF glass so it can be used on a full frame body if I got one down the road. Practicality asideā¦ Iām also just enjoying having different stuff with a different feel to mess around with so swapping systems (canon and olympus) is more fun than chore.
The EM5II is from 2015ā¦ and itās so feature packed that Iām still learning the toys in it. The IBIS alone is a game changer for some stuff. Also āfocus peakingā which is giving you focus indicators on manual lenses opens up a lot of manual lenses that I might have avoided beforeā¦ which are dirt cheap comparatively and often lighter weight.
Yeah, absolutely has to do with what you shoot for sure. I have a 70-300 and felt it just was always a little too short for me so the upgrade to the 150-600 was worth itā¦ even though itās like a bag of bricks to carry lol. But Iām using it for long distance wildlife, mostly birds. The size and weight are definitely something I have to consider before I leave the house thoughā¦ so it will be interesting to see in a couple years if I fully transition to M43.
Doing some macro stuff you can just shoot. If you really get into macro shots thoughā¦ you will want a flash, and a diffusion hood no matter what camera system you use. Since I didnāt want to invest in a ton of new glass for the occasional macro shot, I picked up an inexpensive set of extension tubes for my canon setup to do macro shots. Iām considering getting a set for my Olympus as well. Itās a nice āhackā because it turns any lens you have into a macro (to different degrees) for $20-40 total.
There are pros and cons with everything. A wide to telephoto is great for versatility but is going to be larger and you wonāt be able to get as fast of a lens overall. So it will come down to what you end up doing. If you end up getting a smaller camera that you carry everywhere, you might find youāre leaning into one or another style and enjoying certain things more or less. I never liked prime lenses that much until I started carrying one around more but I have come to appreciate them. Alsoā¦ with your discussion about low light, a prime lens will likely be good because they are so fastā¦ especially once you start getting into the longer ranges. I really like this little 14-42mm but itās like f3.5-5.6ā¦ so Iām considering getting a really fast prime. 7artisans makes a 55mm f1.4 thatās tempting me for around $130. Looks like itās on sale for $107 right nowā¦ huh.. Iām not sure if Iām saving money or not because these are all starting to go into the āwellā¦ itās not THAT muchā territory haha
I feel you there. I played that game for a loooong time. Thatās how I talked myself into getting an older body and investing in the lens system. I havenāt regretted it yet, if that helps heh. I will point out that MPB has a 14 day return windowā¦ so if you get it and a week later you realize āwowā¦ this isnāt itā¦ā there are options. I donāt know if there are any catchesā¦ I donāt think soā¦ but Iād make sure. I believe UPP does as well. No clue on KEH but their prices canāt match MPB and UPP most of the time.
For me I ruled out everything but the āreputableā sites because I had a limited budget and if something like craigslist or ebay was a lemon it would be wasted money. With MPB and UPPā¦ they warranty the items and are giving it a once over before they even list itā¦ which gave me a lot more peace of mind. My camera body from UPP fell under a 1 year extended warranty even which was cool.
Thatās a good starting point. You might also consider a small prime lens like a 20mm or 35mm because theyāre so freakinā tiny and you can get a very fast lens in those sized for a reasonable price, they will be fun for shooting while wandering and if you go with a M43 you could probably stick it in a pocket (jack or cargo pants at least heh).
If you do finally decide on something Iād love to hear back and see how it goes. :) š·
After careful consideration, Iāve got a used E-M1 Mark II from my local shop. I found it for fairly cheap ($300, plus $80 for 1 year warranty and tax). I decided to pass on the GX85 ($400 for body-only) and G85 ($500 including the general purpose kit lens + tele kit lens), despite the great price. Mostly because of my awful experience with contrast AF, where it was unusable compared to phase-detect AF on my D3200.
I found a Sony A6100+kit lens for $440 (amazing deal), but after looking into their lenses, I felt like they were too expensive to the point where it wasnāt really worth it getting an entry-level camera. You know, with Sony you really need to go big or go home, unlike M43 where quality glass can be affordable. Basically, if I were to buy an $800 lens, it wouldnāt make sense to skimp on the body. I still plan on getting a Sony in the future, but Iāll probably save for a nice full frame (A7III, A7C, etc) or higher-end APS-C (A6600) instead.
I still donāt own any M43 lenses to test the camera outside, but Iām inclined to get:
I will order the first lens now, and think things through for the next two possibilities. I honestly donāt know how wide of an aperture Iāll need yet, but Iāll likely have an idea after feeling how the camera performs in low light with the kit lens.
I will keep you posted and update the original post soon relating my experience!
Thatās a great deal, very nice!
I feel you on that lumix series. I like the way they look and they have good reviews, but the prices are inflated right now for some reason which sucks.
Absolutely where I ended up. I knew I could get myself in at a certain point and then upgrade and swap things around later as needed, so it wouldnāt be wasted. Iāve been getting really good deals on some quality budget glass for the olympus. I did end up picking up that olympus 40-150mm for $80 in what appears to be perfect condition from mpb. I can tell itās a more budget lens because of some of the stuff being plasticā¦ but the clarity of the glass is absolutely exceptional for that priceā¦ and it weighs nothing. Iāll include the first couple pictures I took with it here.
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For a lens that is half the size of a can of soda, it has that 80-300mm FF equivalent. I can see why people rave about this one as a starting telephoto.
So just so you can see the size of thingsā¦ Thatās a Rokinon / Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye, then the 40-150mm Telephoto, and the 14-40mm EZ on the camera next to my computer mouse.
The only thing about those super zooms like the 14-150 is that you can sometimes sacrifice quality. IDK that much about that lens, but I got myself a little camera bag thatās like 12 x 8 x 5 with a cross body shoulder strap for idkā¦ $15-20 online. It holds the camera, the lenses, the flash, the cleaning kit, the filters, the batteries, the charger, and the filtersā¦ and thereās still room left lol. So Carrying a bunch of M43 lenses is super easy and light weight. Doesnāt make me feel like I need to worry about super zoom coverage like I did with my canon. Always boils down to what kind of photos you think youāll be taking. My tactic was to get the 14-42mm based on recommendations online as a āwalking in the park lensā to get used to the camera and then Iāve just been filling in the blanks as I go. Going on MPB and UPP and just poking around thereās so many fun lenses in that $60-150 range that itās almost impulse purchases at that point. Iām still considering some of the manual ones from 7artisans as wellā¦ even new theyāre cheap and I keep hearing how theyāre good. Iām considering picking up extension tubes for my EM5ii to do macro shots at some point like I did for my canon. I still kind of want that 7artisans 3.5mm fisheye but I absolutely donāt needā¦ but it seems fun.
Itās been interesting for me. For fast action in lower lightā¦ there is no escaping needing good sensors and fast lenses. But because of the IBIS and some of the fun tools olympus puts in their camera software (live composite is so coolā¦ pretty sure the one youāre getting has that)ā¦ I have been able to take stills in lower light by using longer exposures and still getting cleaner shots. So I had to kind of reset how I thought about the exposure triangle settings.
Iām excited for you. Using this olympus from 2015 has convinced me that I absolutely want to get a modern flagship M43 camera at some point.