For the first time, a Ukrainian Yak-52 propeller-driven trainer has appeared with markings that could indicate a string of aerial victories against Russian drones.
Reports so far indicate that the Yak-52 carries a gunner in the rear cockpit, who takes aim on drones using some kind of infantry weapon, likely a light machine gun.
Prop planes engaging in gun combat hasn’t been much of a thing since WW2, aside from some sporadic incidents using World War-era hardware:
Drones in a lot of ways resemble post WWI or early WWII aircraft - slow speed (not jet powered) and so what worked back then still works. Will drones move to high speed jet powered aircraft or remain slow speed - that is an open question (and a mix might be correct), only time will tell.
The qualifier of propellor-driven-ness aside, gun kills were very much a thing through the Vietnam War, and there are recorded gun kills from modern aircraft in the 90s (an A-10 downed an Iraqi Mi-8 with its 30mm in 1991, and Venezuelan F-16s are recorded knocking down prop-driven recon and close air support aircraft with their 20mm cannons in 1992. It’s only been relatively recently that missiles and IFF systems have become reliable enough to obviate the need for dogfighting capabilities and weapon systems.
If anything, standout thing here is the kills being achieved by a backseater with an assault rifle of some variety. “Lean out of the cockpit and shoot your service weapon at the other guy” aerial combat hasn’t been in vogue since the earliest days of World War 1, but given the low speed and predictable flight profiles of the drones these guys are targeting, it’s not a bad choice.
Prop planes engaging in gun combat hasn’t been much of a thing since WW2, aside from some sporadic incidents using World War-era hardware:
https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/the-last-dogfight-between-propeller-airplanes-happened-in-central-america/
But it may make a lot of sense in the context of countering UAVs.
Drones in a lot of ways resemble post WWI or early WWII aircraft - slow speed (not jet powered) and so what worked back then still works. Will drones move to high speed jet powered aircraft or remain slow speed - that is an open question (and a mix might be correct), only time will tell.
What’s amazing about this, is a Spitfire had to dive on a V2 bomb to catch up to it, they couldn’t match one in level flight.
Meanwhile, a fucking training aircraft that wasn’t even built to carry guns is chasing down drones powered by microlight engines.
The qualifier of propellor-driven-ness aside, gun kills were very much a thing through the Vietnam War, and there are recorded gun kills from modern aircraft in the 90s (an A-10 downed an Iraqi Mi-8 with its 30mm in 1991, and Venezuelan F-16s are recorded knocking down prop-driven recon and close air support aircraft with their 20mm cannons in 1992. It’s only been relatively recently that missiles and IFF systems have become reliable enough to obviate the need for dogfighting capabilities and weapon systems.
If anything, standout thing here is the kills being achieved by a backseater with an assault rifle of some variety. “Lean out of the cockpit and shoot your service weapon at the other guy” aerial combat hasn’t been in vogue since the earliest days of World War 1, but given the low speed and predictable flight profiles of the drones these guys are targeting, it’s not a bad choice.