“As trains — many carrying hazardous material — have grown longer, crews should not be getting smaller,” said Eddie Hall, the president of the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen union. He praised the FRA for taking the step President Joe Biden promised. Hall said keeping two people in the cab of a locomotive is crucial now that railroads rely on longer trains that routinely stretch for miles.
I mean, they’ve already got a dead-man’s switch so that if the engineer becomes incapacitated, the train stops, not to mention a lot of logic that they can put on the trains. Are there many accidents that this would have prevented?
I mean, I get that locomotive engineers are gung-ho on the idea of more demand for locomotive engineers, but does this make sense from a safety standpoint?
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It sounds like this particular incident, a little over twenty years ago, might have been resolved with two people in the cab – but it also ended without anyone being hurt, and required a complicated series of events to go wrong, where actions were taken that both disabled the dead man’s switch and to set the train to accelerate. I’d think that one could reasonably change the UI on the controls to avoid that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX_8888_incident
We don’t know, because the norm has been two-man teams. The question shouldn’t be “is this making things safer”? The question needs to be “will reducing crew sizes still be as safe”? The burden of proof needs to be on the rail operators to show how they have mitigating controls in place to prevent failures which may have been caught by that extra human operator. Ultimately, this is about systems failure and avoiding low incidence, high damage failures. While technical controls are fantastic and should be used, they are often inflexible and don’t respond in the same way that a human can to prevent or mitigate a disaster. Humans are often a critical layer in the Swiss Cheese Model for preventing these sorts of failures. Fewer humans may well mean fewer chances to stop something getting through.
That all said, if railroads really want to have data driven safety, then we really need an organization, similar to the FAA, which is empowered to enforce safety standards and require companies to comply with safety recommendations. And I doubt the railroads would be happy about that. It might mean actually implementing safety upgrades and maintenance in a timely manner.
It might help with prevention but a bigger thing is when an accident happens there is help to deal with it or worse if one is to injured they can be pulled out or at the least someone can still report it and such.
Sounds like it could have been avoided either with better logic in how braking was applied and how the dead man’s switch was disabled (because if a locomotive is configured to move, I don’t think it should ever be disabled), or by keeping one person in the cab any time the engine is running.
I don’t think the problem is so bad that we need to babysit the locomotive at all times.