• doctorcrimson
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    The fuck is this post and comments? Bernie is the realest G in US congress for decades and counting. There aren’t even any statements against him here, just memes, did the boomers set up a shame bot network?

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        Bernie was willing to vote down the bipartisan funding bill recently because it included additional military funding to Israel. He stood on the Senate Floor and put up giant printout images of women and children starving and begging to receive water from behind a metal barricade. Bernie is the realest person you’ve never met. Despite being Jewish, he is the single person who speaks out the most against this atrocity in all of Congress.

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          Despite being Jewish

          I know you didn’t mean any harm by this but it is antisemitic to assume that all Jews do, or should, or would be expected to, support Israel. It’s not true, it has never been true, and the only people who claim it is true are racists.

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            That’s exactly why I said it, though? Bernie is an example of a high standard we should hold all people to. Calling me antisemitic for that makes you seem like an Israeli apologist.

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                All I’m saying is, due to his self identified ethnicity and as a democratically elected politician, he has more to lose as a Jewish Person than almost any other democrat in congress. That matters. We’re allowed to talk about that.

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                  I said work on your reading comprehension, not dig yourself a deeper hole.

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          yes yes, i know he cant do more than write a strongly worded letter and then vote on partylines later…

          the parliamentarian wont let him

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            He didn’t vote on party lines, he voted against the bill and it didn’t pass.

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      Bernie told us who he was decades ago when he went along with bombing Serbia for months because the “adults in the room” were demanding it. Now when a different occupation is indescriminantly killing civilians he’s still going along with it! Bernie the bomber strikes again.

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        Idk who tf that is but the song you posted directly contradicts how Bernie voted on foreign aid policy in the last couple of weeks, so get fucked I guess

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          Oh that’s cute he did a safety vote but it took the ICJ ruling for him to move.

          So that means he understands the ICJ ruling and it’s implication. Yet he continues to deny there is an ongoing genocide. He speaks of how terrible things are, but he won’t say permanent ceasefire and he won’t say genocide. He says a “pause in the fighting” and there are “really horrible things” going on. He won’t call it a genocide.

          He says, correctly so, we are all complicit with funding and arming what is going on. Speeches he should have made months ago, but could only make with the cover of the ICJ ruling. Why did it take that?

          He is still unable to call out Bibi and the Likud for being textbook genocidal ethnofascists. He soft gloves them as “far right”. He uses harsher language against Trump.

          He continues to parrot “Israel has a right to defend” and “Hamas bad” tirade where “defense” means wholesale leveling of residential areas with a side of taking pop shots at kids getting water and ladies in churches. Everything the song laments about liberals Bernie parrots.

          Put yourself in Bernie’s place in that interview. Would you answer the same? Would you willfully refuse to call it a genocide?

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            What the fuck are you on? Bernie Sanders was making statements about the atrocity and asking for a complete cut off of US Finances and Weapons to Israel since the beginning of the conflict, and the ICJ hearing and ruling took place between January 24th and now.

            This is a link to him speaking to congress months ago.

            I haven’t seen the interview you’re referring to, if you’re talking about that Twitter link then I don’t use Twitter meaning I cannot actually see what the post is, so you’re shit out of luck there, pal. I don’t know what the date of it was or who was interviewing him, so finding on my own is gonna be pretty difficult. Please, enlighten me.

            AFAIK he’s called it many horrible things and described the awful events in great gory detail, and I’ve never heard him refuse to call it a genocide.

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              You can still watch the interview aka the context of the whole post, without an account. That’s how I watched it. Here’s a youtube link which was dropped today, 20 FEB 2024, and the bot below will provide plenty of privacy centric other links for which you don’t need to visit the google site.

              The central complaint about Bernie is he will not call for a permanent cease-fire. He will not call out the genocide. He won’t go further than calling Israel’s government “far right”. He has protestors arrested.

              I’m going to sound redundant but in the speech you linked to is exactly what I was talking about in the previous. Coaching languge. Steps towards. Only Israel has a right to defend. Sure sure atrocities humanitarian disaster on a scale worse than WW2. But yet no genocide. No cease fire. Just pauses. Very maybe-later-honey .

              We expected better from him.

              Heres a summary timeline of how Bernie has been completely out of touch with “The left” on this issue.

              Oct 24 2023 NEARLY 300 BERNIE SANDERS ALUMNI CALL ON SENATOR TO BACK A CEASEFIRE IN GAZA

              Nov. 29 2023 Bernie Sanders: The left face of genocide

              Feb 16 2024 'The Word Genocide Makes Me Queasy’ – Sanders Slammed in Ireland for Gaza Stance

              Feb 19 2024 Irish protesters denounce Bernie Sanders as a Zionist genocide denier over Gaza

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                So out of that 4 minute clip of him being asked about Israel you’re all mad about him not advocating for a full invasion of allied nation of Israel? That’s what all of this is about? I admit, I’d want marines on their shores if taking their funding away wasn’t enough for an immediate resolution, but that’s hardly worth talking about when there is fuck all he can do to make that happen.

                And then your hit piece articles, those are good, you should read those sometime. The earliest one talks about how he had already taken to the senate floor calling for ceasefire and humanitarian aid.

                The Vermont senator has taken to the Senate floor to advocate for humanitarian aid for people in Gaza and urge Israel to allow aid to enter the region, along with calling for a halt from “the bombs and missiles from both sides.”

                But I guess that makes him complicit in Genocide according to you.

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      Bernie is the realest G in US congress

      the realest G in congress needs to give me back my $27 and then stand in front of the heart attack gun again

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      Your man’s a sheepdog and you’re terminally naive if you REALLY think the DNC’s favorite sheepdog is a “real g” lmfao. Please do us all a favor and keep AAVE out of your mouth; you sound like a suburban 4channer learned how to speak democrat.

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        Please do us all a favor and keep AAVE out of your mouth; you sound like a suburban 4channer learned how to speak democrat.

        Tagline plz

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        Sounds like Projection, your words contradict the reality of his voting history.

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      Everything that doesn’t present the American fascists as absolute sweethearts who are totally concerned for human suffering but aww shucks we just can’t stop exporting it because reasons must be perpetuated by bots. I am very smart.

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      did the boomers set up a shame bot network?

      scab I am here to skibidi shame you