• Allero
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    As I said - USSR was by no means holy, and some regions, particularly forcefully occupied states of Eastern Europe, gained quite a lot from its downfall.

    I’m talking about a more global effect, particularly economic and political pressure USSR exerted on major capitalist powers. It was a simple sign: “the policies we implement do work, your workers can and will demand them, and you better do it or the same revolution will strip you out of all your riches”.

    Pretty much since its inception, USSR was able to literally shift global policies regarding working conditions and universally available services. It’s after severe protests in pre-Nazi Germany and USSR that all major powers suddenly decided to shorten the work day from 10-12 hours to 8, then from 6 days a week to 5, introduced (except for US) full universal healthcare and higher edication, and many more policies we take for granted today.

    Then, when USSR went into its demise, the improvements stopped. The income inequality rose significantly in most major economies, going straight up through the roof in the US, UK, Canada and Germany. Same happened to the post-Soviet countries themselves, even though it has been at first greatly compensated by the sheer volume of money coming from foreign investors. Social services started to receive less funding, and population is more in debt than ever.

    If anything, USSR was the force that kept major powers in check and didn’t allow capitalism to do what it does best - concentrate wealth, population be damned. I know capitalism can look like magic when your country has got significant economic boost in living memory, but global trends show a very different picture.

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      It’s after severe protests in pre-Nazi Germany and USSR that all major powers suddenly decided to shorten the work day from 10-12 hours to 8

      Some industries in the west has been adopting the 10 or 8 hour working day even before the soviet union has existed. And this is going to be only my personal speculations, but as the nature of the work itself has been changing over time, so did the time requirements.

      from 6 days a week to 5

      It’s funny that you mention that, because one thing that I distinctly remember from what my parents and grandparents has been telling me about the previous regime was something called “working saturday of honor”, when the workers were mandated to come work an extra day. Some of them were to compensate for the state holidays, some just to ramp up the productivity.

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        It’s worth keeping in mind that while Soviet Union as a state was officially established in 1922, it was simply a formality following the victory in civil war that lasted from 1917, when bolsheviks captured centers of power, thereby effectively forming a country 5 years before full victory and declaring the union.

        Events of 1917 (and earlier events of 1905) were the sparks that lit the fire, and then Soviet Union as an actual country capitalized on that, furthering its influence on global policies.

        Before 1917, the absolute majority of industries did not have 8-hour work day. And since then, we had giant shifts in the way we work and jobs we take, but nothing has changed in respect to work time. We went to offices, we went remote, but we still work those same 9 to 5’s.

        The “working saturdays of honor” (“subbotniki”) were only mandatory during a short period in the 30’s, as Stalin ramped up the industrial machine. For the rest of the time, they were completely voluntary, and they weren’t held every week - they were more like seasonal events. Modern Russia still has them, particularly in schools and other state-owned institutions. It is considered to be part of learning to respect every work - and it is quite fun, actually.