• @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    507 months ago

    What the fuck are you talking about? Biden and the Democrats are the only politicians trying to tax the rich, get people healthcare, and keep Medicare funded. Blame the Republicans that stop them every time. It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it.

    • @assaultpotato@sh.itjust.works
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      177 months ago

      Yea the US could sacrifice zero dollars in defense budget and still provide adequate service to the population. Healthcare is cheaper when it’s not being profiteered by insurance middlemen, and private companies pricing is really hard to influence directly without something like a price fixing lawsuit.

      But hey gotta maintain the “democrats are just as bad” image.

    • Poggervania
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      47 months ago

      They’re one of those “gEnOcIdEr JoE” types that don’t realize the US would’ve backed Israel regardless of who was President.

      Also, the military industrial complex is fucking insane and it’s arguable that the US has invested so much into it that it would hugely impact the economy between all the programs, jobs, and money in general we (over)give to them.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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        27 months ago

        Of course I know we would have supported Israel regardless. They are an ally who was attacked. It’s the right thing to do. That isn’t to say that I don’t think there shouldn’t be restrictions that come with that aid. Limits on civilian casualties for example. That is all irrelevant to the point.

        You’re right that the MIC is a huge part of the economy, so if anything supplying weapons to Israel will inject billions into the US economy. That will only help the finances of the average American.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness
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        Not necessarily. Reagan stopped the bombing of West Beirut with a phone call. Fucking Reagan. Maybe at the start the US would’ve backed Israel, but things getting this bad is clearly genocide Joe’s fault.

    • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      -147 months ago

      Yes.

      If you pretend the only two options are Republicans or Moderate Dems, then the moderate Dems are the only ones doing anything.

      They’re throwing glasses of water on the fire while your house burns down and stopping for five minutes between glasses to demand you praise them.

      And that is the two party system. And only the two parties can change it.

      Which is why Bernie has spent decades trying to get a progressive movement going. And it’s finally happening.

      So now we have some democrats willing to fix shit.

      But don’t just lump everyone with a “D” next to their name into the same group.

      So I’ll go back to blaming the Republicans when Republicans make shit worse.

      And I’ll keep blaming moderate Dems when they refuse to fix anything once in power. Even the rare things they do fix, it’s still less than what Republicans break.

      Keep it up, shit keeps getting worse. It’s just hitting a couple branches on your way down. It’s ain’t even a parachute, sure as shit isn’t preventing the fall.

      • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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        57 months ago

        Everyone with a D by their name is in the same group. That is what a two party system means. There are no moderate or progressive Democrats. There are just Democrats. Sowing division amongst Democrats only helps Republicans.

          • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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            27 months ago

            When you look at the ballot to vote, It just says Democrat. In other countries there are more options, but here it is just D and R.

        • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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          -67 months ago

          Having standards is sowing division!

          Manchin and FDR are exactly equals!

          If there’s a D by the name we must support everything they do!

          • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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            67 months ago

            Get the Republicans out of power. Then you can criticize the Democrats all you want. That is all that matters. They are an existential threat.

            • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              Don’t criticize Joe during the primary!

              Don’t criticize Joe during the general!

              Dont criticize Joe his first two years, he’s still getting things going!

              Don’t criticize Joe year three, an election is coming!

              Looks like that’s it for now, but I have a pretty good idea what comes next

              Either we repeat those steps again, or you’re actually right and Republicans are in power, then we still can’t criticize him.

              When exactly are we allowed to disagree with our politicians again? I knew Republicans stopped long ago. But I honestly missed the memo democrats are doing it now too.

              Think I’ll pass tho, it looked to work out pretty bad for Republicans

              • the post of tom joad
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                This thread is getting really cultish huh? If you just change a few terms around its uncanny… I bet there’s like a right-wing thread out there, a bizarro version of this one.

                A Republican poster writes, saying they are gonna vote third party, cuz ‘fuck dems’ and also ‘fuck the increasing fascism in the R party’

                (It’s probably out there, right? Bear with me).

                In that possible/probable posting i wonder if we’d see responses like these?

                Get the Democrats out of power. Then you can criticize the Republicans all you want. That is all that matters. They are an existential threat.

                I feel like I’ve even read that on FOX news.

                Everyone with a R by their name is in the same group. That is what a two party system means. There are no moderate or far-right Republicans. There are just Republicans. Sowing division amongst Republicans only helps Democrats.

                Not as bad as the first one, but still shuts down thought.

                I got long winded and i also don’t know how to end it so hey, i appreciate you.