Murfreesboro, Tennessee, is already beginning to implement the law.


A city in Tennessee is using a recently passed ordinance essentially prohibiting homosexuality in public to try to ban library books that might violate the new rules.

Murfreesboro passed an ordinance in June banning “indecent behavior,” including “indecent exposure, public indecency, lewd behavior, nudity or sexual conduct.” As journalist Erin Reed first reported, this ordinance specifically mentions Section 21-72 of the city code. The city code states that sexual conduct includes homosexuality.

Anyone who violates the new ordinance is barred from hosting public events or selling goods and services at public events for two years. Anyone who violates the ordinance “in the presence of minors” is barred for five years.

An ACLU-backed challenge to the ordinance has already been launched, but that hasn’t stopped city officials from implementing the measure. Last Monday, the Rutherford County steering committee met to discuss removing all books that might potentially violate the ordinance from the public library. The resolution was met with widespread outcry from city residents.

“When have the people who ban books ever been the good guys?” local activist Keri Lambert demanded during the Monday county meeting.

Murfreesboro city officials have already used the ordinance to ban four books that discuss LGBTQ themes. In August, the county library board pulled the books Flamer, Let’s Talk About It, Queerfully and Wonderfully Made, and This Book Is Gay.

The board also implemented a new library card system that categorizes books into certain age groups. When it takes effect next year, children and teenagers will only be able to check out books that correspond to their age group; they will need permission from a parent or guardian to check out “adult” books.

Library director Rita Shacklett worried in August that the new rules would prevent students from accessing books they need for a class. She explained that many classic high school books, such as To Kill a Mockingbird, are now classified as “adult.”

It’s unclear if the county steering committee plans to pull books such as the A Song of Ice and Fire series, which includes multiple depictions of heterosexual sexual conduct.

Murfreesboro’s new ordinance is part of a much larger wave of attacks on LGBTQ rights in Tennessee and the rest of the country. In the past year, the so-called Volunteer State became the first state to try to ban drag performances. That law was overturned in court.

In March, the Tennessee House of Representatives passed a bill that would allow people to refuse to perform a marriage if they disagree with it, essentially gutting marriage equality. The bill was introduced in the Senate but deferred until next year.

link: https://newrepublic.com/post/176915/tennessee-town-ban-public-homosexuality

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    But the Bible explicitly condemns most of these things (except the God-ordained genocide in the Pentateuch I guess). It’s a bit of an oversimplification to compare that to books that explicitly condone and encourage sexually deviant behavior.

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      Violence is already banned by law, we should ban all the books about that too, right?

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        I would have no problem with making those age restricted, if that’s what you mean (after the all, the city is only banning the distribution of these materials to minors). We already do that with violent movies, after all.

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          after the all, the city is only banning the distribution of these materials to minors

          And kicking anyone who shows affection to their same-gender partner in public out of the city. You left that part out for some reason.

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            Murfreesboro passed an ordinance in June banning “indecent behavior,” including “indecent exposure, public indecency, lewd behavior, nudity or sexual conduct.” […] The city code states that sexual conduct includes homosexuality.

            Read the article. The law is not limited to homosexual displays.

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              I see, so as long as it isn’t limited to homosexuality, it doesn’t say that gay people will get kicked out of town if they kiss each other in public. Gotcha.

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                Again, read the article.

                Anyone who violates the new ordinance is barred from hosting public events or selling goods and services at public events for two years. Anyone who violates the ordinance “in the presence of minors” is barred for five years.

                They don’t kick you out of town. They just ban you from hosting public events or selling goods and services at public events. You’re acting like they’re planning to send gay people to the camps.

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                  Nothing says “freedom loving patriot” like *checks notes* disallowing people from participating in society because they were born a certain way.

                  How can you even form a coherent thought up there through that massive cloud of cognitive dissonance? I guess it’s like a muscle, and if you work it out enough, even the most extreme dissonance can be brushed off.

                  Kind of interesting to watch.

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                    They’re not banning anyone from participating in society for being gay, they’re banning them from public events for exposing children to sexual behavior. Big difference.

                    You can be as gay as you want in the privacy of your own bedroom, but you don’t have a right to expose other people’s children to it.

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                  Where does it say that is what “barred for five years” means? Or is that just your personal interpretation?

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                    It’s clearly a reference to the previous sentence. Basically, if you violate the statue without the presence of minors, you are barred from public events for two years, if minors are present, you are barred for five.

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              So if a man and woman are holding hands, they’ll get the same punishment? Somehow I don’t think this backwater town will enforce the laws equally since they have such a dumb ordinance to begin with.

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      Ezekiel 23:20

      There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

      Looks like smut that should be kept out of the hands of children to me.

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        “Therefore, Oholibah, thus says the Lord GOD: Behold, I will stir up your lovers against you, From whom you have alienated yourself, And I will bring them against you from every side: The Babylonians, All the Chaldeans, Pekod, Shoa, Koa, All the Assyrians with them, All of them desirable young men, Governors and rulers, Captains and men of renown, All of them riding on horses. And they shall come against you With chariots, wagons, and war-horses, With a horde of people. They shall array against you Buckler, shield, and helmet all around. ‘I will delegate judgment to them, And they shall judge you according to their judgments. I will set My jealousy against you, And they shall deal furiously with you; They shall remove your nose and your ears, And your remnant shall fall by the sword; They shall take your sons and your daughters, And your remnant shall be devoured by fire. They shall also strip you of your clothes And take away your beautiful jewelry. ‘Thus I will make you cease your lewdness and your harlotry Brought from the land of Egypt, So that you will not lift your eyes to them, Nor remember Egypt anymore.’

        Ezekiel 23:22-27

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          What’s your point? Does putting smut in context make it any less smutty and appropriate for children? It’s okay for children to hear about men blasting out semen with their giant dicks if it’s in the proper context?

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            Are you saying there is no difference at all between a book that praises and encourages such things and one that reprimands it?

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              If I had a book that showed graphic pictures of people having sex with “do not do this, children” at the bottom, would that be appropriate for children?

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                Are there graphic pictures of sexual behavior in any Bibles? We’re talking about a single verse in a 1000+ page book. Assuming any child would even read that far is quite a stretch.

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                  I see, so giant donkey dicks spewing out cum is not unacceptable for children as long as there isn’t a picture of it and it’s a long book. Well, a lot of those books being made unaccessible to children are long books with far less graphic depictions of anything sexual, so you should be against them making them adult only.

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                    Yo DO know that the books they are trying to ban are basically fetish porn in comic format, right? If you can’t tell the difference between that and a Bible, I really can’t help you.

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                  You should take a look at the types of books these people are banning, because if you think they’re all books with graphics pictures of “sexual behavior,” you are very mistaken.

                  If you were to actually do some research into what is actually being banned, it becomes clear pretty quickly what this is about. And it’s not “graphic pictures of sexual behavior.”

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              How about a third option: one that mentions it at all. Isn’t that what this is all about after all?

              According to Republicans, this is about not exposing children to things like that. You can’t change the criteria for this one book, especially when that book is a religious holy book. That would violate the First Amendment by creating laws that specifically and overtly target anything based on religion.

              Additionally, it’s fucking stupid.

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      yes, that’s the point of the whole book.
      technically still falls under the law tho

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        There is no explicit depiction of sexual activity in the Bible. Ezekiel 23:20 is probably the most lewd verse in the entire Bible, and it is roundly condemned as sinful and inappropriate in the following verses.

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        deviant according to whom?

        According to the majority. You DO support democracy, don’t you? Or would you be more comfortable with a dictatorship that forces everyone to be gay?

        Who are you to regulate or judge who an individual chooses to live their life?

        I didn’t pass that law, the city of Murfreesboro did. BTW we also have laws against stealing and killing people, should we get rid of those too because they limit people’s freedoms in choosing how they live their lives?

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              That’s because you are fascists who hate freedom, America, individual liberty, and free will. It’s not complicated. You are in fact the ones suffering from deviant behavior. You’re the ultimate Statists: authoritarians who literally want to control the actual corporial bodies of individuals for no reason at all other then to make yourselves feel superior. Sheer, unbridled statism.

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                If people had the ability to control their own bodies, we wouldn’t need a state. Unfortunately there’s people like you who think it’s okay to do gay stuff with or in front of children, and refuse to be reasoned out of it.

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                  Here in this psychotic post, you claim that we all “think it’s okay to do gay stuff with children”.

                  You -being an obviously evil amd possibly satanic psychopath- should have your skull busted open for that one. People like you do not deserve to breathe.

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                    No, I claimed that YOU think it’s okay to do gay stuff with children, because you told me that passing laws about this sort of stuff is fascism and it’s nobody’s business how people live their lives.

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                  I love how you just make up psychotic delusions like “with or in front of children”. Is it because you have already been convicted of this that you think everyone else is like you?

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                    No, it’s because the city found it necessary to pass a statue prohibiting it that makes me believe it has probably happened before.

                    Unlike what you seem to think, passing a law is actually a fairly complex and time consuming process. Not to mention costly, since enforcement isn’t free. City councils don’t just wake up one day and decide to pass some random laws because it’s a Tuesday and they got nothing better to do.

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          In this post you claim the law is an opposition to a “dictatorship that forces everyone to be gay”. Then you make a false dichotomy that claims that crimes with victims who lose life and property is equal to two dudes with the hots for each other.

          You lying fascist shitbag.

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            No, I asked whether YOU would feel more comfortable under such a dictatorship.

            Also I don’t care what two dudes with the hots for each other do in the privacy of their own bedrooms, but when it’s in public and especially in front of children, it is potentially no longer a victimless crime.

            Believe it or not, there are other people in the world. It’s unrealistic and downright narcissistic to expect that everyone should accommodate your desires everywhere and at all times.

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              Believe it or not, there are other people in the world. It’s unrealistic and downright narcissistic to expect that everyone should accommodate your ideology everywhere and at all times. Statism is bad, mmkay

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                Yes, I absolutely agree. It’s unrealistic and downright narcissistic to expect that everyone should accommodate your ideology everywhere and at all times. But this is exactly what LGBT advocates like you are demanding.

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        These books (I looked them up) explicitly tell people how to have gay sex. They also claim it’s healthy and natural. The Bible doesn’t. Yes, gay sex is mentioned (albeit in a very roundabout way) and there is one verse mentioning giant dicks shooting loads like horses, but the context is very different. Do you see the difference?

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          The Bible is fake bullshit that should never be referred to for anything guiding legal issues. See the difference?

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              Of course I haven’t. Fascists think that the role of government is to control the life of the individual. Fascists love to disguise themselces by claiming it’s “for the children”. Even Rush Limbaugh taught everyone that as far back as 1988. He was right about that: fascists would try to control your life and say it was about “the children”.

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                Yeah, I can see how that’s totally unlike LGBT folx who also insist that what they do is for the benefit of the children.

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                  It IS for the benefit of the teens who are struggling with their sexual feelings because psychopathic fascist shitheads like you think it’s okay to beat the shit out of them and drive them to suicide just for their feelings. Lots and lots of “children’s” 🙄 deaths are on your hands and the hands of those who push fascist rewrites of “common sense” laws.

                  But you wouldnt understand that because you’re a psychopath. And probably an incel at that, based on how you have presented so far.

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                    Okay, so by your definition they’re no different from fascists, because both claim what they’re doing is in the interest of children.

                    You don’t happen do have any data to prove that what LGBT educators are doing leads to better outcomes and improved mental health in the long run, do you?

                    Also, I have never advocated for using violence against children and I definitely do not support beating them for any reason. You’re just making shit up again and projecting your own issues on me.