• BraveSirZaphod
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      229 months ago

      It also has to be noted that a huge element behind low Israeli casualties is the Iron Dome.

      If you plotted a chart of attempted civilian deaths, you’d get a very very different picture. Personally, I’m not meaningfully less upset at someone who tries to murder me just because they don’t succeed.

      • @Not_mikey@lemmy.world
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        49 months ago

        Iron dome didn’t come online until 2011 so you can see pre-iron dome on the chart, 2008-2011 and it’s not much different. If you do go out even further like another person posted you’ll see that comparatively high Palestinian deaths characterize this conflict. Before Hamas, before the iron dome Palestiniana have been the overwhelming victims of this conflict.

        • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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          It’s a group of people with leftover/smuggled weapons from other anti-Israel interests vs easily the most organized military in the region.

    • Bigmouse
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      139 months ago

      Hamas is Jihadist and extremist. It would have been a fatal mistake for Israel to support them to undermine the secular movement for a free palestine. Trying to position Hamas between international support and the palestinian people sounds like a really cynical and bad idea.

      There is no way the hard right in Israel would ever pursue such an agenda.right?

      • sab
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        19 months ago

        You could honestly consider Hamas and the Israeli far-right as allies - both of them actively want a senseless war in which civilian casualties are a goal in their own right. And now they finally got what they wanted.

        Both are actively recruiting for each other. If you think you can starve and bomb people in Gaza into not supporting Hamas, you’re devastatingly wrong. And even though the only thing it really proved is that he was entirely unprepared for an attack that his government actively provoked and had every reason to see coming, this is only going to make Israelites more afraid and more willing to support the fucked up policies of Netanyahu.

        To hell with them both.

      • @emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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        29 months ago

        What do you think the hostages they took were for? Aside from later rape after they were tired from all the initial raping and pillaging.