• @Rivalarrival
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    -210 months ago

    You suggested they are ready, willing, and eager to go to jail, and now you’re arguing I’m some kind of bad guy because I share their desire for them to be jailed. And somehow, I’m the hypocrite?

      • @Rivalarrival
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        -110 months ago

        No one said jail was a good thing

        I said jail was a good thing. They should be in jail.

          • @Rivalarrival
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            -110 months ago

            You bike anywhere that doesn’t have these movement-infringing obstructionists. You don’t bike anywhere that does have such criminals.

            “Jail” seemed the most appropriate option. “Hood ornament” and “speed bump” are perfectly reasonable alternatives, but you indicated their willingness for “jail”. “Jail” would make everyone happy.

            • Actually yes, you do, and I know because I’ve been on both sides of this equation. The only thing you can do is be patient and wait for them to pass or politely cheer them on and walk/push your bike around them. They are not seriously going to stop pedestrians.

              The fact that they’re willing to endure jail over this is morally laudable. Jail is awful for those who can’t afford to bail themselves out. It shouldn’t be a place protesters are thrown into for exercising their first amendment rights but that’s how tyranny works.

              You need to stop being selfish and grow the fuck up.

              • @Rivalarrival
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                -110 months ago

                You keep using those words, but you clearly don’t comprehend their meaning.

                “Selfish” is demanding exclusive access to public thoroughfares. “Selfish” is insisting that you are the only person who can use a public road. “Selfish” is denying public access to public roads.

                “Tyranny” is when an individual forces the public to bend to their personal whims, instead of allowing them to conduct their own affairs in peace.

                These people are not protesting. They are infringing on the rights of every person they deliberately delay.

                Protesters have the right to speak. They do not have the right to demand a captive audience to hear their speech. They do not have the right to stop anyone who wants to move. They do not have the right to harass. You can speak; you cannot force anyone to listen, and you should be jailed for trying.

                • No, no, you’re being selfish. You can’t be assed to sit in traffic for 10 minutes or simply turn around to accommodate for other people’s right to protest. That silly thing people fought and died to have. All because you don’t want to tolerate being inconvenienced. That is the height of selfishness.

                  You are selfish. Selfish, selfish, selfish.

                  Drivig isn’t even a right, it’s a privilege. Legally it’s a privilege. You have no right to drive and never did. They do, however, have a right to protest.

                  Stop only caring about yourself and invest your mental energy in something other than your shitty 9 to 5.

                  • @Rivalarrival
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                    No, no, you’re being selfish. You can’t be assed to sit in traffic

                    No, no, no: that isn’t traffic. I’m not stuck in traffic. “Traffic” is people trying to get from where they are to where they want to be. I have no problem sitting in traffic.

                    The problem is that they aren’t traveling. They aren’t creating “traffic”. They are detaining people. They are unlawfully stripping people of their right to travel, without their consent. Unlawful detention is a crime.

                    I’m not caring only for myself. I am caring about all the other people who are similarly being unlawfully detained by these selfish, tyrannical, criminals who have unilaterally stripped us of our right to travel in peace.

                    You can Share the road, get the fuck off the road, go to jail, or get run over. I don’t particularly care which one you pick, but “detain others” is not an option.