For all their “christianity”, republicans in the US are pretty hypocritical.
Jesus actually teached that everybody deserves to get fed and housed. That everybody deserves healthcare. That people should care for other people in their community. That is essentially the core principles of socialism.
No. Socialism is a form of government that relies on forced redistribution, which is not something Jesus ever advocated for or practiced. He DID encourage people to share their wealth and take care of the poor, yes, but he never took anything by force in order to give it to them, and he never told people to do so either.
Socialism is an economic theory second to the form of government. IOW, you can have authoritarian + socialism, authoritarian + capitalist, or whatever combination might exist, like Democratic + socialism, or social policy.
All systems rely on forced redistribution in some form unless it’s anarchy.
Did Jesus ever advocate for trusting the system?
You might as well ask me what Gandalf advocated.
So you have no idea what Jesus advocated for, but you’re confident that he’d agree with you…
I’m atheist, so I don’t particularly care. Jesus was a socialist in the simplest terms according to his actions in the bible, and even his system placed demands on his followers. Or at least the system created in his name.
As I said, you have no idea what he said but you’re confident he’d agree with you.
I’m confident that he would disagree with the Republican party!
Yeah, that’s like saying vegans wouldn’t eat pork.
You’re insistent that a mythical person would agree with me? Like I said, you might as well be arguing with me that Gandalf would as well. You’re changing the subject.
He was literally teaching people that other governments and ideologies woukd be absolutely obliterated
No human system would be left
Wait, am I not forced to pay taxes? And isn’t any progressive tax by definition redistribution? United States confirmed as socialist, you heard it here first!
Yes, progressive taxation is a feature of socialist government.
Whoa. Its hard to get it that wrong.
What did I get wrong? Where did Jesus advocate for forced redistribution by government?
Jesus literally said to pay your taxes. What is a tax other that forced redistribution?
Yes but did he say paying your taxes will remove the obligation to take care of your neighbor?
I’m kinda missing the verse where he said “Give Caesar what is Caesar’s, and let him take care of the poor.”
So Caeser can take the money and kill Christians with it instead? I’m not sure you’re making the point you think you’re making.
Yes, and that did in fact happen during the early days of the church, until Rome became the center of Christianity. So who won in the end?
It sounds like the state won.
Where did he condemn gay folk?
What does that have to do with anything?
The question was whether or not he advocated for socialism.
Jesus didn’t say a lot of things the way we say them today. He did though advocate for the poor.
He advocated for people giving directly to the poor (i.e. charity), not for letting the government handle that.