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    Like, you mean that people with autism might be negatively-impacted in some way? I haven’t been following the whole RFK thing, but from what I have read, I don’t think that he’s been upset at people with autism or said that being around people with autism is an issue. He’s just promoted a really bad take spawned by a claim from Andrew Wakefield that combining certain vaccines rather than taking them separately could cause autism.

    Like, the risk here is that he’s going to use his influential position to encourage people to not be vaccinated, and that that is going to cause a lot of deaths and harm from disease when vaccine use falls off.

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      The idea that vaccines cause autism and therefore we shouldn’t give vaccines inherently implies that autism is a worse scenario than any of the diseases vaccines protect against. We have a measles epidemic killing children, and people would still prefer to not vaccinate because of a fear of autism.

      If people think having a dead child is better than having an autistic child, that doesn’t bode well for autistic folks.

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      The government is laying the groundwork for reestablishing federal mental institutions while also putting a fresh target on autism. This is manufacturing consent to expand the group of others. First they came for the immigrants, and I did not speak up… You know the poem. The outgroup is ever-growing and it starts when they put you under a microscope

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        The stories I could tell you from my time as a caregiver for adults with developmental and intellectual disabilities…

        ::: TW: neglect, abuse, SA

        Here is a link to a lawsuit against Clover Bottom Mental Hospital, which was one of these institutions. The lawsuit happened in 1993. This was not that long ago.

        “At the defendant state institutions, plaintiffs spend their days waiting out the hours. They sprawl in ill-fitting wheelchairs or carts. They are parked in dayrooms or hallways unattended, or are left alone in their rooms. Many plaintiffs languish in hospital beds or cribs, with no stimulation except when they are changed or fed. Others are left in wheelchairs, unattended for hours, with no stimulation or human contact available to them.”

        “Plaintiffs’ basic care needs are ignored; they are left alone for hours. Clover Bottom residents in diapers are often wet, their clothes soaked through with urine.”

        “Defendants have failed to protect residents of the institutions from physical abuse and neglect.”

        “Verbal abuse is widespread. Staff at Clover Bottom use abrupt, verbal commands to communicate with residents; often, they scream at them.”

        There is so much more, and so much worse. The thing is, some of these folks are still alive, and still members of our community, and they still have the evidence of this ongoing trauma writ large. The current system isn’t ideal. There’s never enough care, and the people who are providing care are often under-trained and under-paid and over-worked. But at least it’s better than this.

        ETA: I had to come back and add: I left out all the sexual abuse. There was… a lot. There’s evidence. It’s mentioned in that lawsuit but there are stories I can’t bring myself to tell. :::

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        They’d murder autistic people if they thought they could get away with it.

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      He’s talked about forcing people with “mental issues” into “wellness centers” where they “go outside and garden.”

      Read: send them to fucking work camps.

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        It sounds like he was advocating for creating drug addiction treatment facilities.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/fact-check-yes-rfk-jr-proposed-sending-people-with-drug-problems-to-wellness-farms/ar-AA1usVuj

        What’s True:

        Kennedy said he would create rehabilitation wellness farms where people with drug-related issues (including with psychiatric drugs) can go for a program of rehabilitation that would include job training and growing organic food for their own consumption.

        What’s False:

        However, contrary to how some people interpreted his words, Kennedy did not say or imply anyone would be “sent” to such locations against their will.

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          “I’m going to create remotely located work camps and starve people there if they can’t grow ‘organic food’, but they’ll be voluntary! Promise!”

          “There’s an epidemic of autism, but I’m not going to force a ‘cure’ on anybody! Promise!”

          Like, he hasn’t said it explicitly yet, but it’s a pretty obvious next step if he’s ever so inclined, and it’s not like this administration would stop him

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            This is the same regime that’s trying to define gay and trans people as mentally ill. The fascist intentions are clear. Their policies don’t deserve a charitable reading.