Meh, everyone I know in the real world seems to like him. Lemmy isn’t a great snapshot of the real world. Which is why you all were so shocked and shook that Trump won. Sometimes ya just gotta look around.
All I’ll say is that disinformation and propaganda will not change reality.
No matter how many times you say things are getting cheaper, they will become more expensive. No matter how many times you say you’re rich, you’ll be poor. No matter how many times you say tariffs work, they won’t. No matter how many times you say vaccines don’t work, your community will continue to die. I can keep going.
People can lie to themselves and say their quality-of-life is improving but health, life expectancy, and purchasing power will still continue to get worse - no matter. If 53% of daily mail users accept that, then fine. If 49.8% of the voting bloc accept that, then fine. But life will get worse.
Then I guess Democrats better work on getting better candidates and changing their strategy so they can win and stop all this horrible stuff happening, right? Are the Democrats working on that right now?
I would hope so. I am not a Dem, so I wouldn’t know.
It seems to me that they have learned nothing from their failures, however. Some Dems are trying to enact change but do not understand the level of investment and sacrifice needed to turn this thing around. They just aren’t winners.
That being said, the world has more nuance than “dems better strategy = win”. There are active disinformation campaigns from foreign nations and internal bad-actors. There is also active voter suppression and the richest people on the planet flooding the government with lobbying money. To think this is a straightforward calculation, is to be incredibly naive.
Republicans are also actively committing said “horrible stuff” (which includes breaking the law) and are not being sent to prison. The general population is also not using their 2A very well either - if they were, a lot of Republican seats would be vacant.
But as I said prior, lying to yourself about your current reality will not help the situation - nor make your life better. The country is objectively worse now than it has been in 100 years. You can cope and rationalize all you want, but your life will get worse and you will die earlier. You are not going to beat reality.
Agreed. In every country and in every political party.
Yes, and it can get quite despicable - no matter political leanings. But American Conservative propaganda is on a completely different level. They actively change the definitions of words and have never once argued in good-faith. It is a societal poison that is historical in scale - it is not just “another” disinformation campaign.
Which is why I don’t lie to myself.
Big disagree.
Like I said, your words will not change reality. If you had investments, they have been completely wiped. The purchasing power of your dollar has decreased. The diplomatic power of your passport has decreased. Your drinking water is on track to become carcinogenic (if it’s not already). Your health access to health-services will be worse (than it already is). Your national parks are going to be flogged and libraries torn apart. There is movement to ban books and destroy sources of knowledge.
There is not a single demographic in the country (other than the extremely corrupt involved with Trump) that benefit from the incoming consequences. Like I said, the country has only had this bad an outlook during the Great Depression.
If you want to cope, whatever. Enjoy living to 45 and having your kids work in Florida sweatshops.
If you had investments, they have been completely wiped.
And will bounce back stronger than before. Not only did I have investments, I am actually buying more. I am buying a bunch of stocks. because prices are low. If all investments were truly wiped, how come we don’t see wealthy people out on the streets crying that everything has been wiped out? Because they are doing the same thing. Nothing has been “wiped” unless you sell.
It’s quite obvious to me that you don’t invest in or know anything about the stock market. lol
Your health access to health-services will be worse (than it already is).
My access to healthcare is awesome! I haven’t had any problems. What are you even talking about?!
There is movement to ban books and destroy sources of knowledge.
LMAO
Enjoy living to 45 and having your kids work in Florida sweatshops.
I’m actually 50 and I’m retired and enjoying life, and my kids are married, happy and have great jobs and enjoying life.
How old are you? Nothing you are saying is reality! lol
Which is kind of the problem, right? Of ~244.5M eligible voters, only ~59% or 156.3M actually cast a ballot. And of that, only ~77.3M voted for Trump. The man won the presidency with less than 32% of eligible voters. FPTP elections and the electoral college are leading us to worse and worse candidates.
Both candidates earned around the same number of votes, and both were pitiful. So to that extent, I agree? But the malfeasance wouldn’t have been so rampant and on display with any candidate other than Trump.
Presuming you’re actually an American citizen, we’ve both lost because of this setup. While the current government may be making some strides on things conservative constituents actually care about, I don’t think most of what’s happening right now is helping anyone but those in power. Being glib may make you feel better that you’re on the “winning team”, but it’s the people who voted for him who are statistically more likely to suffer the impacts of this disastrous administration.
Nebraska will be bankrupt, and soon so too will all of the rural and agricultural states in the country’s interior. I’m sorry that they’ve all been conned into believing that this group of despots will help them.
But the malfeasance wouldn’t have been so rampant and on display with any candidate other than Trump.
And yet the democratic party was so weak, they couldn’t win. Trump has always been like this. So it’s not a surprise. But the Dem party has been shitting the bed lately. And if they don’t change their attitudes, they’ll lose next election too.
Presuming you’re actually an American citizen, we’ve both lost because of this setup
I am. But I haven’t lost. The democratic party (and Lemmy) has become so out of touch with the average american, that they needed their ass handed to them. Democrats and Lemmy are getting what they deserve for making fun of republicans, ignoring working class concerns, making fun of rural americans and middle america, not taking them seriously.
And it’s all gonna happen again if the attitude doesn’t change. I’m personally happy to see you all burn down your own shit because you were too egotistical to listen to differing opinions.
I personally have been bullied on Lemmy just because I post news articles about conservatives–many articles from AP News even. I don’t call people names, I don’t advocate violence, I abhor nazis and fascists. Yet Lemmy has done all of those things to me. I was banned from one instance on my name alone before I even posted anything there.
Lemmy had guaranteed that I will never ever vote democrat ever again. I have seen more hate and spite on here than I have seen any republicans do.
So Lemmy and Democrats are getting what they deserve and I’m sitting back laughing at it. And it’s gonna happen again in 4 years unless ya’ll change your attitudes.
A swing of 1.8% is hardly a massive loss, be real. The entire Trump was predicated in promises and lies to swing that many voters, and now they all immediately regret it. The polls from Tuesday show every single Democrat (including Harris) would have won in November right now, which shows the obvious regret right there.
But they don’t regret it. That’s why Lemmy is upset. They know the voters who voted him in don’t regret it. If they regretted it, then Lemmy would be cheering and clapping.
every single Democrat (including Harris) would have won in November right now
Oh so no worries about the next election then, right? You all will be a shoo-in, right?
Meh, everyone I know in the real world seems to like him. Lemmy isn’t a great snapshot of the real world. Which is why you all were so shocked and shook that Trump won. Sometimes ya just gotta look around.
Your real world must be pretty small.
Small enough to win the presidency I guess. How’d your side do in the election?
Just a lack of critical-thinking and maturity.
All I’ll say is that disinformation and propaganda will not change reality.
No matter how many times you say things are getting cheaper, they will become more expensive. No matter how many times you say you’re rich, you’ll be poor. No matter how many times you say tariffs work, they won’t. No matter how many times you say vaccines don’t work, your community will continue to die. I can keep going.
People can lie to themselves and say their quality-of-life is improving but health, life expectancy, and purchasing power will still continue to get worse - no matter. If 53% of daily mail users accept that, then fine. If 49.8% of the voting bloc accept that, then fine. But life will get worse.
Then I guess Democrats better work on getting better candidates and changing their strategy so they can win and stop all this horrible stuff happening, right? Are the Democrats working on that right now?
I would hope so. I am not a Dem, so I wouldn’t know.
It seems to me that they have learned nothing from their failures, however. Some Dems are trying to enact change but do not understand the level of investment and sacrifice needed to turn this thing around. They just aren’t winners.
That being said, the world has more nuance than “dems better strategy = win”. There are active disinformation campaigns from foreign nations and internal bad-actors. There is also active voter suppression and the richest people on the planet flooding the government with lobbying money. To think this is a straightforward calculation, is to be incredibly naive.
Republicans are also actively committing said “horrible stuff” (which includes breaking the law) and are not being sent to prison. The general population is also not using their 2A very well either - if they were, a lot of Republican seats would be vacant.
But as I said prior, lying to yourself about your current reality will not help the situation - nor make your life better. The country is objectively worse now than it has been in 100 years. You can cope and rationalize all you want, but your life will get worse and you will die earlier. You are not going to beat reality.
Agreed. In every country and in every political party.
Which is why I don’t lie to myself.
Big disagree. How old are you? Because for you to say that, you haven’t lived here for over the last 50 years.
Yes, and it can get quite despicable - no matter political leanings. But American Conservative propaganda is on a completely different level. They actively change the definitions of words and have never once argued in good-faith. It is a societal poison that is historical in scale - it is not just “another” disinformation campaign.
Like I said, your words will not change reality. If you had investments, they have been completely wiped. The purchasing power of your dollar has decreased. The diplomatic power of your passport has decreased. Your drinking water is on track to become carcinogenic (if it’s not already). Your health access to health-services will be worse (than it already is). Your national parks are going to be flogged and libraries torn apart. There is movement to ban books and destroy sources of knowledge.
There is not a single demographic in the country (other than the extremely corrupt involved with Trump) that benefit from the incoming consequences. Like I said, the country has only had this bad an outlook during the Great Depression.
If you want to cope, whatever. Enjoy living to 45 and having your kids work in Florida sweatshops.
Nor will yours.
And will bounce back stronger than before. Not only did I have investments, I am actually buying more. I am buying a bunch of stocks. because prices are low. If all investments were truly wiped, how come we don’t see wealthy people out on the streets crying that everything has been wiped out? Because they are doing the same thing. Nothing has been “wiped” unless you sell.
It’s quite obvious to me that you don’t invest in or know anything about the stock market. lol
My access to healthcare is awesome! I haven’t had any problems. What are you even talking about?!
LMAO
I’m actually 50 and I’m retired and enjoying life, and my kids are married, happy and have great jobs and enjoying life.
How old are you? Nothing you are saying is reality! lol
Which is kind of the problem, right? Of ~244.5M eligible voters, only ~59% or 156.3M actually cast a ballot. And of that, only ~77.3M voted for Trump. The man won the presidency with less than 32% of eligible voters. FPTP elections and the electoral college are leading us to worse and worse candidates.
Hmmm, guess ya all should have made a better impression on those that didn’t vote then. Because the majority of those who did vote, voted for Trump.
Using your numbers, your candidate and party was so bad, that they let someone who only had 32% of eligible voters, win the freakin’ presidency! LMAO
Both candidates earned around the same number of votes, and both were pitiful. So to that extent, I agree? But the malfeasance wouldn’t have been so rampant and on display with any candidate other than Trump.
Presuming you’re actually an American citizen, we’ve both lost because of this setup. While the current government may be making some strides on things conservative constituents actually care about, I don’t think most of what’s happening right now is helping anyone but those in power. Being glib may make you feel better that you’re on the “winning team”, but it’s the people who voted for him who are statistically more likely to suffer the impacts of this disastrous administration.
Nebraska will be bankrupt, and soon so too will all of the rural and agricultural states in the country’s interior. I’m sorry that they’ve all been conned into believing that this group of despots will help them.
And yet the democratic party was so weak, they couldn’t win. Trump has always been like this. So it’s not a surprise. But the Dem party has been shitting the bed lately. And if they don’t change their attitudes, they’ll lose next election too.
I am. But I haven’t lost. The democratic party (and Lemmy) has become so out of touch with the average american, that they needed their ass handed to them. Democrats and Lemmy are getting what they deserve for making fun of republicans, ignoring working class concerns, making fun of rural americans and middle america, not taking them seriously.
And it’s all gonna happen again if the attitude doesn’t change. I’m personally happy to see you all burn down your own shit because you were too egotistical to listen to differing opinions.
I personally have been bullied on Lemmy just because I post news articles about conservatives–many articles from AP News even. I don’t call people names, I don’t advocate violence, I abhor nazis and fascists. Yet Lemmy has done all of those things to me. I was banned from one instance on my name alone before I even posted anything there.
Lemmy had guaranteed that I will never ever vote democrat ever again. I have seen more hate and spite on here than I have seen any republicans do.
So Lemmy and Democrats are getting what they deserve and I’m sitting back laughing at it. And it’s gonna happen again in 4 years unless ya’ll change your attitudes.
A swing of 1.8% is hardly a massive loss, be real. The entire Trump was predicated in promises and lies to swing that many voters, and now they all immediately regret it. The polls from Tuesday show every single Democrat (including Harris) would have won in November right now, which shows the obvious regret right there.
But they don’t regret it. That’s why Lemmy is upset. They know the voters who voted him in don’t regret it. If they regretted it, then Lemmy would be cheering and clapping.
Oh so no worries about the next election then, right? You all will be a shoo-in, right?
How far did your friends go in school? Do you know anyone with an advanced degree?
Most of my friends have degrees, yes. They are adults. lol