• Krono
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    7 days ago

    I consider the Soviets and Americans who defeated the Nazis to be heroes, and they murdered a whole heap of children.

    Only Sith deal in absolutes.

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      7 days ago

      That isn’t murder, that’s warfare.

      This person suggested shooting through a four-year-old to assassinate Elon Musk.

      So that’s who’s back you have right now.

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        7 days ago

        I fail to see any ethical difference between murdering children under conditions of “warfare” and murdering children via assassination. Both are equally horrific.

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          7 days ago

          And yet you think someone who shoots through a four-year-old child to assassinate Elon Musk is heroic.

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            7 days ago

            I think an ethical shooter would take every reasonable precaution to avoid hitting the human shield.

            But in the vanishingly small hypothetical where it could not be avoided, then I would still consider the shooter a hero, yes.

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              Vanishingly small? He has literally been using his child as a human shield since the UHC CEO was assassinated. The vanishingly small hypothetical is where it can be avoided.

              This really is exactly like the excuse the IDF gives to kill Palestinians. They’re being used as human shields by Hamas, so it’s justifiable.

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                7 days ago

                I have no idea how often the human shield is wrapped around his head, but I would imagine any shooter who does their homework would be able to find many hours in the day when the child is not physically attached to him.

                The obvious difference between this and the IDF is that, in this case, we have an actual human shield. Anyone who is paying attention knows that the IDF “human shield” justification is just a lie to cover for their atrocities.

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                  7 days ago

                  Why do you imagine that? What do you base it on? How could you even predict such a thing? At this point, you’re just trying to avoid saying that murdering a child in order to assassinate someone is not justifiable.

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                    I base it on the fact that the child in question is what, 4 years old? You know how often a 4 year old sleeps? There’s naptime, and very early bedtime…

                    Is your argument honestly that the human shield is wrapped around his head literally every moment he is in public? You know how absurd that sounds, right?

                    The only thing it takes to disprove your hypothesis is a quick Google search showing dozens of recent pictures of his head without a human shield attached.

                    This conversation is getting very silly.