If we expect to build a mature and sustainable platform, we have to learn how to deal with the negative aspects of what new people of all backgrounds bring with themselves.
Ya I mean the people who were here before the APIcalypse aren’t exactly the most amiable group either, to say the least.
Also the guy you’re responding to made his account June 15, 2023, he was almost certainly part of the original wave of reddit migrants. Not sure what he could be referring to about the last time people came from reddit, I don’t remember any big waves since the original one.
It’s like those people who move to NYC from a different region of the country and start complaining about gentrification and suburban commuters after living in a highrise for 2 years. Like bitch, you are the gentrification, and those suburbanites are a hell of a lot more familiar with the city than your ass even if they don’t live inside its limits. Sorry if that’s unrelated, I just hate gatekeeping.
Gatekeeping is never good, it doesn’t really matter who perpetrates it. Lemmy and Fediverse as a whole should be welcoming places for newbies to get into, not the barren battlefield angry to be disturbed.
But this conflict is as old as time - think of Eternal September, for example.
This feels like such a Post-Reddit Migration Lemmy response. You are trying to invalidate what I am saying by calling me part of the problem I am talking about.
I had a Reddit account, but I actually deleted my account in March, prior to the announcement of the API changes. I was then convinced to join Lemmy by a third party on Discord in mid-June, thus my account creation date. The first real wave of Reddit joiners took place shortly after June 30, as this is when the API changes went into effect. One month later in August, the Hexbear instance would be created. Around this time, there was a flood of CSAM posts in every community on the .world instance. To say that the quality of Lemmy as a whole went down when this happened would be a massive understatement.
My account creation was coincidentally two weeks before the Reddit API changes took place, but that does not make what I said invalid just because I used to have a Reddit account.
First of all, I don’t even agree with the premise that Lemmy got worse after the reddit exodus happened. Before that it was like 1-2k monthly users mostly on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. The reddit migrants built almost all of the biggest and most active servers that exist on lemmy today. I may not have been here beforehand, but I saw the stats and I saw the content that was available when I first arrived, and it was pretty minimal.
Second of all, you are part of the problem, you’re being super negative for no reason right now. The rest of us are excited for more redditors to join Lemmy and you’re acting all elitist when you’re not even part of the original pre-exodus userbase anyway. I just don’t get it, why not just embrace more users, why do you feel the need to act superior to others?
I also joined about the same time. Officially before the Reddit changes. However I very much link myself with all other Reddit refugees. Reddit was and is a cesspool, the API changes were just the last shove.
To say that the influx of Reddit refugees has a negative effect is one thing, but to deny that you are not part of that change is just that, denial.
If we expect to build a mature and sustainable platform, we have to learn how to deal with the negative aspects of what new people of all backgrounds bring with themselves.
Ya I mean the people who were here before the APIcalypse aren’t exactly the most amiable group either, to say the least.
Also the guy you’re responding to made his account June 15, 2023, he was almost certainly part of the original wave of reddit migrants. Not sure what he could be referring to about the last time people came from reddit, I don’t remember any big waves since the original one.
It’s like those people who move to NYC from a different region of the country and start complaining about gentrification and suburban commuters after living in a highrise for 2 years. Like bitch, you are the gentrification, and those suburbanites are a hell of a lot more familiar with the city than your ass even if they don’t live inside its limits. Sorry if that’s unrelated, I just hate gatekeeping.
Applauding that.
Gatekeeping is never good, it doesn’t really matter who perpetrates it. Lemmy and Fediverse as a whole should be welcoming places for newbies to get into, not the barren battlefield angry to be disturbed.
But this conflict is as old as time - think of Eternal September, for example.
This feels like such a Post-Reddit Migration Lemmy response. You are trying to invalidate what I am saying by calling me part of the problem I am talking about.
I had a Reddit account, but I actually deleted my account in March, prior to the announcement of the API changes. I was then convinced to join Lemmy by a third party on Discord in mid-June, thus my account creation date. The first real wave of Reddit joiners took place shortly after June 30, as this is when the API changes went into effect. One month later in August, the Hexbear instance would be created. Around this time, there was a flood of CSAM posts in every community on the .world instance. To say that the quality of Lemmy as a whole went down when this happened would be a massive understatement.
My account creation was coincidentally two weeks before the Reddit API changes took place, but that does not make what I said invalid just because I used to have a Reddit account.
Hexbear was created in 2020: https://hexbear.net/post/1?scrollToComments=false
First of all, I don’t even agree with the premise that Lemmy got worse after the reddit exodus happened. Before that it was like 1-2k monthly users mostly on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. The reddit migrants built almost all of the biggest and most active servers that exist on lemmy today. I may not have been here beforehand, but I saw the stats and I saw the content that was available when I first arrived, and it was pretty minimal.
Second of all, you are part of the problem, you’re being super negative for no reason right now. The rest of us are excited for more redditors to join Lemmy and you’re acting all elitist when you’re not even part of the original pre-exodus userbase anyway. I just don’t get it, why not just embrace more users, why do you feel the need to act superior to others?
I also joined about the same time. Officially before the Reddit changes. However I very much link myself with all other Reddit refugees. Reddit was and is a cesspool, the API changes were just the last shove.
To say that the influx of Reddit refugees has a negative effect is one thing, but to deny that you are not part of that change is just that, denial.
Taking into account what Lemmy is, it is safe to assume that majority of its audience, including OGs, are Reddit refugees of some sort.
Seems like a fair comparison, I was surprised by the account age of the person complaining as well