I know there was some schism and moving of instances, but beyond that I can’t deduce what happened/is happening.

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    The 196 mods say that the Drag controversy is unrelated, as Dragonfucker had been banned from 196 long before for unrelated reasons.

    Although…this is some sort of spat relating to pronouns, and as I recall, isn’t that guy’s thing referring to himself using the third person?

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      That user claims they are enunciating neopronouns, but yes, the inconsistent third person syntax fucks it all up

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      The spat is unrelated to pronouns or neopronouns, according to the 196 mods. It has to do with the Blahaj admins and the 196 mods disagreeing on moderation behavior for the community, and the 196 mods not wanting to have their own moderation decisions reversed or second-guessed by admins if there wasn’t a rule violation in how the 196 mods handled moderation.

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        Thanks for these responses. I hope everyone reaches a satisfactory resolution to this. I don’t like to see communities or instances infighting, but I suppose it’s just part of us growing as a platform.

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          Home brew drama is driving genuine engagement…

          Let them fight, bring some popcorn!

          At the end of the day, they ain’t leaving fedi so it is win win

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            I mean, it has drug me into it despite me having them hidden in my feed, so it’s effective.

            Not the type of things I usually look for, but I know many do enjoy it.

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            I suppose that’s dependent on what you want to look at. I still find the platform wholly engaging, and overall more diverse, though I feel the front page has become a bit dominated by polarizing opinions, but we do feel to be on a crappy slice of our timeline right now, so I can’t totally fault people for that.

            This particular scenario is a little inappropriate to say this is us maturing as a platform, but it’s definitely…a thing that is happening…

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        Right, but, uh, weren’t you specifically one of the people who Ada banned actioned even though the 196 mods didn’t want you banned actioned, because you said on 196 that a nonbinary gender identity wasn’t valid? Which is an instance rules violation and not the mods’ decision on whether to action?

        The story you’re telling seems very relevant to pronouns and gender if your personal history is included.

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          You know damn well it has nothing to do with pronouns. It’s about your abuse of them. You’re just making the “attack helicopter” argument, but in a way that’s subtle enough to be believable by people gullible enough to be taken advantage of.

          You’ve been banned from several instances for trolling, and finally found one that buys into it- thus creating even more of that savory drama for yourself.

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          Right, but, uh, weren’t you specifically one of the people who Ada banned even though the 196 mods didn’t want you banned, because you said on 196 that a nonbinary gender identity wasn’t valid?

          No, but nice try. Very typical of your brand of trolling.

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            You’re right, drag misremembered there being a ban. It was actually just post locks and comment removals by Ada when you said that queerphobic stuff the mods wouldn’t remove.

            Thank you for the correction, drag is sorry for the mistake. Together, we’re getting to the truth.

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              The locked post isn’t even on Blahaj. The removed comment, that I was leaving because of disagreements with the admins but acknowledged their right to make such decisions, was hilariously petty in the vein of Ada removing posts (and handing out bans) for people saying things like “Dragons aren’t real”. Nor am I at any point defended by the 196 mods.

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                You very deliberately said you don’t acknowledge drag’s gender, and in the same comment acknowledged that your view isn’t welcome on Blahaj. How is it petty for an admin to enforce the rules you knew and admitted you were breaking?

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                  “I acknowledge that the recent position of the admins means I am no longer welcome here, and will thus be leaving. I wish them all the best.”

                  “How DARE you say that out loud? Removed”

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                    You could have said exactly that without adding in the transphobic part. How come you left it out just now, but not a month ago? Did you learn what’s acceptable and what’s not acceptable since then?