MrJay

minecraft can work really well for learning how tp program, when I was 9 that is how I started, unfortunately its been a long time since I took that course but if you are willing to do the research there should be a some for server programming and java modding at least that is what I took over 11 years ago at this point, and maybe javascript for gametest framework for bedrock edition. there is also minetest which is a little better for learning but isn’t minecraft so is a little bit more annoying but lets you modify basically anything you want which is very fun. also a great way to learn boolean algebra/circuit design in minecraft/minetest, redstone can be used to make micro computers like calculators, fun and can be applicable to making games in minecraft which makes it more engaging as well. also the minecraft commands can be put into a mcfunction file as you can imagine this can be generated by outputting text to the file, this is great because you learn file io and a programming language and mostly he would be using math to generate things so teaches math, its limited but that is something he would find fun that is super easy and can be done in basically any language.

redstone/mcfunctions I personally like this approach on top of the course because it gives him something useful so should hopefully encourage him to play and program after he finishes lessons and etc…

I currently don’t have 1 favorite there are so many really cool languages. but here are 2 and some that have inspired me.

1. Common Lisp for sheer Technological prowess has some very advanced features that I dont see very often, runtime recompilation, code as data, data as code, debuggers, images, redefinition, macros , perf measuring, recompilation during errors to fix bugs etc… and has a algebraic syntax which can be nice.
2. D for general purpose, again has features that are not common, optional GC, C compiler, zero allocation c strings, Lowlevel purity, and can be as Fast/Faster than C, and as simple as python(in the base language obviously pythons packages make up for basically all of its flaws). Languages that have inspired me not favorites but changed the way I think are APL, Factor, Scheme, Lobster, Unison, and Koka, I hope you enjoy the read if you check any of those out.

I thought I was going to disagree at first, because I am forced to use multiple DSLs for several projects I work on, however after I thought about it I hate the those DSL’s because they are not actual programming languages they are overly restrictive. more limiting than assembly, thus why I am using an actual language to create my own DSL that mainly uses the language as its host, so its not really a full DSL just a few extra functions on top of an actual language. so surprisingly I pretty much agree.

I would say Elixir, Ocaml, Rust, Haskell, Scheme, Clojure, Common Lisp all have great examples of large and small DSL’s that are very convenient, I would also include libraries as DSLs a C example would be something like Raylib, or SDL, and I would consider the code below an example of a micro DSL in Common Lisp.

    (loop for i from 0 to 100 by 2
              for x from 10 by 10
              do (print (list i x)))

so I think I mostly agree.

I have been working on something similar, not in Rust but the general consensus of what I found still should be helpful.

interpreted languages are easy however typically not as efficient as what you would want especially because you know people will take the language and run to the moon with it.

Jit Compiled language with a good Jit these are fast enough especially for a text editor or other utilities that you normally wont need a fully compiled language and when you do then you can use bindings which should be a rare occurrence which is nice.

Binded languages are pretty good they typically have been around for a while people know them and its a safe bet, something like Lua with its Jit is quite fast, or javascripts Jit .

Fully compiled my concern I had with this approach is people would need the compiler tool chain just to do basic edits which for developers that just want to use the editor and not configure it will be very annoying or borderline impossible. the specific scenario I had trouble with was a config file generator I made for work I make a lot of these and I sent the code a long with it however they needed to download the compiler to use the script which meant I basically had to re run it every time myself. with a text editor you may not think this will be necessary until someone shares the editor with a friend. of course if you pack the compiler into the editor this would work.

another concern is compile times, I think users when changing their config could get annoyed if they need to compile something every time, they want to test a new setup.

the big benefit with fully compiled is hopefully your users will be using the same language as yourself, and this makes it a lot easier to debug user level code. of course this should be the case with any of these options if you primarily use the same language as your users however going fully compiled makes the separation between dev and user much smaller. and the second being speed that will make the editor quite fast.

I would make a numbered list of the best to worst option however it really depends on if you want to keep the project completely in Rust or not, for my project I wanted to use one language so I went with the fully compiled approach , with a language that contains a runtime eval, so it depends on what you want out of the editor.

personally I prefer the fully compiled approach I think it makes a lot more sense, next would be a language implemented in Rust.

“sense” as in my mental model of the project. ^

For users I find they tend to prefer a language that they are already familiar with, such as lua, javascript, or python however I tend to find the usefulness to be surface level helps the very beginners but I think it makes it harder for people who really want to make something useful.

in quite a few games/programs/editors I use, scripting languages tend to not be very well documented because the devs rarely see the scripting language when developing, however when the “scripting language” is the same as the main dev language the users can use the main dev documentation also for scripting in a lot of cases. thus why I think Neovim and Emacs work so well, doesn’t need to be the same language as long as devs use the scripting language enough to get irritated at its flaws.

“main dev language” in terms of time spent by the developers in the language ^

hopefully this helps and makes sense.