GivingEuropeASpook [they/them, comrade/them]

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  • Uprising? I’m sorry, but the civilians in Gaza aren’t doing any glorious uprising they’re hiding from the barrage of Israeli rockets being launched that are leveling their city.

    An uprising is not a coordinated military effort, and while I am on the side of the oppressed, i am not going to use a bunch of justifications to dismiss the trauma being inflicted on civilians because they had the gall to be born to parents who decided to move to occupied Palestine.

    Sometimes I really wonder how many of you actually care about human life and how many of you care about evening the score.









  • My real issue is that Ukraine won’t negotiate at all, even on Crimea, and I just think that’s unreasonable.

    For the same reason that every country tells its own seperatist movements “no”. I believe that Russia should’ve waited things out because its the open state of war that gives Ukraine enough diplomatic cover to push to its pre-2014 borders. Had it done so I think given another decade or two, Ukraine would have to accept reality and cede it formally in exchange for concessions of some sort (again, thinking of historical precedent).

    While I’ve been describing and explaining sovereignty as a concept I do believe it presents inherent flaws indicative of its origins with European royals and its having been imposed across the world.

    it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of relocation

    Of course not, but a war with shifting frontlines (since I was suggesting it as an alternative to invasion) would be inherently more destructive. (Although forced relocation can be committed as a war crime too).


  • what if…no you can’t secede and I don’t care how many of you want to?

    This is what happens with every seperatist movement pretty much though, and yet i dont see many calls for arms and civil war Cascadia, Scotland, Catalonia these days. The people there know it would mean the destruction of everything they hold dear.

    …possible for Russia to offer citizenship and relocation assistance to everyone, but it would mean displacing a lot of people and I’m not sure it’s realistic. Do you have examples of historical precedent in a comperable situation?

    I mean, I don’t think there’s any way of getting around displacing people - if it joined Russia I’m sure there are people who’d want to leave for Ukraine, and of course we’re already talking about the reverse.

    I can’t think of specific examples but there’s definitely been examples of mass migration or offering of citizenship due to “political solutions” meant to avoid conflict and reduce the spectre of war. Just off the cuff though, I can think of how people of Northern Ireland are able to hold Irish passports, or the numerous migrations that happened in the 20th century when borders were changed or imposes as parts of treaties (the part of Germany that is now Poland, the Muslim/Hindu migrations between Pakistan and India during partitioning, etc)

    These aren’t good or something I’m arguing for, but I believe that it was preferable to all out war.

    I don’t think you can extrapolate like that from a single data point under pretty different conditions.

    Me too, that’s why I said it at the end as an aside, it was more of a glib comment than an actual thesis.