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I think you know way more about it than me, I didn’t follow it that closely, but my takeaway perception was different

ton of KHivers got high on the “I’m speaking” rhetoric that insisted that it was bad form to ever talk back to black liberal women

I didn’t get that vibe, so from where I’m at that feels like a bit of a meme or stereotype, but maybe there are creators who leaned into that. From the creators I followed, it was basically just, “please except that your whiteness means ignorance of what it’s really like for BIPOC in America”.

Pendleton would ask people for any evidence of the outright insane claims that were going around and they would ghost. Every time.

I saw a lot of responses. I saw some debunked and some ignored. I saw Pendleton blocking people, I saw evidence of Pendleton deleting some of their own videos to preserve their image. I saw Pendleton making very low-blow attacks trying to discredit their critics by questioning their mental wellness (this is Nazi af). Pendleton is obsessed with curating their social media image, they do frequently double down and rarely admit to an l. No saints here, Pendleton and LiberalTok were fighting in the mud together.

As for the first point, she was correct about the liberal content creators. People accused Pendleton of telling people not to vpte for Kamala including this article, but they only ever seemed to say that they, personally were not going to do it.

It wasn’t just that, Pendleton spent far, far more time going after Kamala than Trump (to this day, still seems to talk about Kamala more than President Trump when it comes to the genocide in Gaza). I think there’s reasons both good and bad that leftists will spend more attention punching up to liberals than conservatives or outright fascists, but even with the right intentions, there are real-life consequences affecting immigrants, trans people, and BIPOC. As far as I can tell, Pendleton is experiencing no material struggle in Trump’s America; I know plenty of people who are, much worse than a year ago.

None of this at all to detract from Pendleton has many great takes and informative videos and is doing good work spreading awareness about leftist theory and debunking Western propoganda. I’m being very disproportionately critical here, and that can make anyone look bad.

Just be mindful, that’s my only point. Nobody is perfect, everyone has their blind spots.

Oh yeah, Madeline has good takes on DPRK, and I agree that the Dem establishment needs to be shamed for the genocide in Gaza.

I don’t think the black community has an obsession with supporting Democrats, I think they have a real and physical need to keep their community (relatively) safe. The black community is facing real physical consequences from the Trump administration that white people don’t. Speaking as a white person, it’s easy to be a white leftist when you personally don’t have any skin in the game. It’s easy to have good geopolitical and foreign policy takes when you aren’t worried about where the next meal for your children comes from.

Leftists need to build up grassroots local victories, with community outreach and engagement. There’s definitely lots of it happening already, lots more progress needs to be made to create real grounded solidarity between marginalized groups.

Big online content creators should always be taken with some salt.

Madeleine Pendleton has some great takes, but also some underlying issues they won’t take responsibility for (like occasionally unironically using Nazi memes themselves), so just be aware - https://blaqueinthecity.com/2025/02/25/the-problem-with-madeline-pendleton/

I definitely read that as a denegration, like it’s supposed to be a gotcha: you shouldn’t want to be gay, but now you read this and it’s too late, you’re gay, gottem.

Even if it’s all “in-group” there can still be internalized homophobia and transphobia (I still catch myself with it too), so I wouldn’t consider gay jokes to be automatically okay just because it’s from someone LGBTQ+. The context and audience are extremely important.

Tyler knew his audience was law enforcement, which is traditionally homophobic, so I read it as being a try at edgy ragebait.

Luigi bullet casings: clever, poignant in meaning, suggests he is well read and well developed in his ideology

Tyler bullet casings: low effort meme slop, no coherent ideology

It’s actually completely consistent with how the right often acts as a bizarro or distorted mirror reaction to the left. Like he wanted so badly to be the next Luigi, without understanding what exactly made Luigi so important and so popular. Irony shrouding how his social understanding only goes skin deep.

Even if we’re celebrating the poetic demise of Charlie Kirk, none of us out here celebrating Tyler like we did Luigi.

And I’m not pointing fingers at anyone with this, but leftists CONSTANTLY make gay jokes. I see it all the time, and I’ve noticed because, it made/makes me feel weird.

At least in my circles, the gay jokes are different in way that’s extremely important: being gay is fun and cool and a flex, not a denegration.

Fascists always eat their own.

Put every effort in to suck off fascists, they’ll still throw you under the bus at the first opportune moment.

That’s my take on it. Americans don’t like real war, they like bullying much smaller, much poorer nations that have little capability to fight back. America will get its fix by continuing to bully people within its own borders, immigrants, BIPOC, LGBTQ+, shitting its own guts out until it’s an emaciated shadow of its former self.

I was at work when I announced that Charlie Kirk was dead, everyone stood up and cheered, my boss (wiping his tears of happiness away) presented me with a Powerade bottle full of this own piss and asked me to spread it all over Charlie’s grave for him. Then the CEO showed up and gave us all the rest of the day off (paid) and then even took us out to femboy hooters afterwards, which was running a special “Charlie Kirk” happy hour. America is truly healing.

Charlie Kirk has a whole YouTube channel filled with irrefutable truth that he is a bigot and a fascist.

Charlie Kirk, because he’s a fascist, when assassinated IS SO MUCH MORE IMPORTANT to government and media. Charlie Kirk didn’t just have fascist values, Charlie Kirk was close to the inner circle of fascist power in the US.

People who are not close to the inner circle of fascists do not matter. Their deaths do not matter. Their assassinations do not matter.

“We are all Charlie Kirk” LMFAO no you’re not. You’re not in the inner circle, you’re just another working class schmuck like the rest of us, butwith the taste of fascist leather all over your tongue because you think enough licking of fascist boots will eventually earn you a spot on the inner circle as well. It won’t. You’re nothing to them, you’re disposable.

Cox: “I don’t have any evidence, just trust me bro”

Also reaching hard for some LGBTQ+ link does not equal left, there’s plenty of closeted and not-so-closeted gay, trans, and “chasers” on the right and far right. The RNC is Grindr’s Superbowl.

I don’t think Cox could comprehend what “leftist ideology” means if it danced naked and stabbed a landlord right in front of him.

shove his killing under the rug

We’ve been making jokes and celebrating for days…

Yeah it’s uncanny and unsettling to me that they’re holding signs exclusively in English. It’s almost too obvious an American media company printed these.

Even in the videos the crowd is sounds bored and dead, repeating “we are Charlie Kirk”, nothing else.

Compared to any protest from my little city, people are singing songs, banging drums, playing guitars cheering, waving every variety of homemade signs and flags, mostly hand painted, sometimes just on cardboard with sharpie.

“I left the left because the US might slaughter numerous humans daily but one white influencer getting murked is just one too for me. Nobody deserves that (unless they’re Palestinian/Russian/Chinese/Hispanic/Black/LGBTQ+/poor)”

That sucks, I’ve met some good people in GW2, and definitely the gamer chuds too. What’s terribly ironic is that the developers themselves incorporated explicitly anti-facsist messaging into the Icebrood Saga, and if chuds had a shred of media literacy they would be boycotting it for being mega-woke.

I think what you’re describing is not just political opinions, but shared values. Especially when it comes to upholding human rights, and dismantling systems of oppression that threaten human rights.

Right wingers don’t really have any shared values, except obtain and hold power by any means necessary, so right wing forums are outrageously toxic to each other even when they technically hold the same political position.

That’s why we have a “loneliness epidemic”, as it turns out, being a genocide-supporting chud who doesn’t know empathy also robs you of genuine human intimacy.

I think it’s just desperate cope. This whole Charlie Kirk martyr thing is not organic, it’s a sloppy frantic scramble to uphold the right wing simulacrum of power, righteousness, and control.

You didn’t need all that with MLK. Show anyone an MLK speech, it’s self evident the man was powerful, charismatic, and a real leader. Charlie Kirk is a freaky little weirdo who comes off as unsettling at best.

Or also post fat blocks of communist theory to train the AI into becoming Stalinnet

I’m mad because of all the gleeful jokes I’ve made about Charlie Kirk’s death, nothing came remotely close to this level of disrespect.

I would assume that if this is an official video, the producers had to license the rights to use Charlie Kirk’s voice and license, which probably meant they paid off his wife, which means it only took her 4 days from her husband dying to start making that bag off it. Cold afffff.

Bigoted phrenology has always been popular in incel/redpill/blackpill forums, gradually all of this slop is leaking into the mainstream.

God forbid that making the world a worse place to live in for your own benefit comes with consequences Piers