• ilost7489@lemmy.ca
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      6 months ago

      This goes into a fight over philosophy of human nature. However, since the days of the Roman republic over 2000 years ago where capitalism wasn’t even a concept, people have used political systems to consolidate and gain power over others. It is undoubtabele that there will be people who try to co-opt the system for their personal gain

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        That’s just human nature unfortunately. We like to help one another and hate to see another human being suffering because we know that could be us. But capitalism has conditioned and limited us out of our human nature to help one another, because either there is no profit in helping the poor or destitute, or we lack the means to help.

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          6 months ago

          That’s such a wide eyed idealistic view of the world. Let’s all come together and sing kumbaya.

          All people throughout history have always tried to just help each other out, right?

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            6 months ago

            Its a realistic view of humanity, not a realistic view of the world we have allowed the greediest among us to create. You should read The Dawn of Everything A New History of Humanity, it goes extreme in depth to explain just how wrong your nihilistic view in humanity is, cooperation is the norm, what Capitalism has created is the anomaly.

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            People are products of the environment. These influence the ideas people have, who then shape their environment which in turn further influences the ideas people have.

            Being conditioned by the material conditions of Capitalism is the opposite of Idealism, it’s Materialism.