every single one; when I see a shitty tel aviv influencer join the IDF, I look forward to them being exploded by heroic Hamas resistance fighters; I pray constantly for their violent death

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      There’s a real contradiction between the prison abolitionist line of thinking and the “kill everyone remotely associated with imperialism” one.

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        “You claim to not want to imprison innocent people yet you believe that people who committed war crimes should be punished. Interesting. I am very intelligent”

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          Uh yeah that’s actually a totally incoherent set of beliefs

          If someone thinks prison is beyond the pale for any crime, but also believes that even an association with war crimes is worth the death penalty, they need to put a little more thought into it.

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            Lmao I don’t think there’s anybody who thinks the goal of prison abolition is to not have any form of punishment for crimes and if they do they’re an unrealistic idealist. I think it’s more about not keeping people in prison for decades for minor crimes and using them as slave labor the entire time. If there are I certainly am not one and never claimed to be so not sure why this is supposed to be some kind of gotcha.

            This is like people who say that defund the police is bad because how are you going to have a society without first responders.

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              I don’t think there’s anybody who thinks the goal of prison abolition is to not have any form of punishment

              I didn’t say that, I said “If someone thinks prison is beyond the pale for any crime.” Those people are out there, I’ve talked with them, and that’s what abolition means.

              I certainly am not one and never claimed to be

              I didn’t respond to you, you responded to me

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      So then you disagree with the original statement of the post that all idf soldiers are guilty?

      Are you aware of human history? if you can’t lose your humanity what happened to the nazis that were lining people like me and the people I care about up at the edge of a mass grave.

      How about the people on the edge of the mass grave? What happened to their humanity when they were shot in the back of the fucking head for opposing fascism.

      This “all people are deserving of redemption” is sure rubbing right up against the tolerance paradox.

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        They get a chance, outside of their fascist society, what they do with it is their business. It’s not guaranteed, it requires the work from them. But they are still fundamentally human, denying others humanity is never right. You can possibly be unworthy, but you can’t stop being human. We are all people, from the day we are born, to the day that we die. Saying that others can be inherently lesser than me is something I refuse to do.

        Every human live lost to hate is an unimaginable waste, each of these warcriminals could have been a good person,they aren’t, of course. But in a better world, they could have been.

        It is not, and never was, about tolerating their actions and believes, be more careful when reading before becoming needlesly aggressive, please.