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- climate@slrpnk.net
Paris agreement negotiator Todd Stern attacks premiers who say that decarbonisation programmes are unrealistic and should be slowed down
Political leaders who present themselves as “grownups” while slowing the pace of climate action are pushing the world towards deeper catastrophe, a former US environment chief has warned.
“We are slowed down by those who think of themselves as grownups and believe decarbonisation at the speed the climate community calls for is unrealistic,” said Todd Stern, who served as a special envoy for climate change under Barack Obama, and helped negotiate the 2015 Paris agreement.
“They say that we need to slow down, that what is being proposed [in cuts to greenhouse gas emissions] is unrealistic,” he told the Observer. “You see it a lot in the business world too. It’s really hard [to push for more urgency] because those ‘grownups’ have a lot of influence.”
But Stern said the speed of take-up of renewable energy, its falling cost, and the wealth of low-carbon technology now available were evidence that the world could cut emissions to net zero by 2050. “Obviously it’s difficult – we’re talking about enormous change to the world economy – but we can do it,” he said.
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" Fuck your future. I got mine. "
- those so called grownups“Grownups” = criminally corrupt sociopaths
We need a maximum age limit for politicians and voters. People that aren’t sticking around for dinner don’t get to pick the groceries.
Nothing more grown up than widespread unknown quantities of damage to future generations.
“But if I save YOU, there won’t be enough money for ME to buy a third yacht and second fallout bunker”
It’s so cute that these grown-ups make decisions based on what comes out of their own arseholes. Perhaps it’s time to retire them.
We don’t even know for certain how much carbon dioxide affects the climate over time, we just know that it does, and have educated guesses as to how much. Said educated guesses are under scrutiny because they might be too optimistic and things might be much, much worse than we’re currently attempting to adjust for.
In short; what we’re currently doing isn’t enough, and what we’re currently pushing for might also not be enough. Sure, our goals might be unrealistic, and there will be catastrophes; that’s the price we have to pay because they chose to ignore and delay the problem. Instead of paying up and dealing with the cavity, we’re now arguing that it’s not so bad that the jaw is rotting off.
Ohgnoes Dantoudai-chan, don’t lop their cute widdle necksie-wecksies off~! UωU
I see this pattern often of condescending “leaders” claiming sympathy with our concerns but insisting that as the “grownups” they have to keep progress as slow as possible
to secure their own interests and that of their friendsbecause they’re so steeped in realism while living in their ivory tower.I think the problem with addressing climate change collectively is that the major countries of the world are headed for direct conflict, so they’re preparing by maximizing their economic capabilities. That means they need to focus on oil for energy. Unless politicians can figure out a way to stave off the conflict, there will be no legitimate attempts to reduce the use of hydrocarbons.
Five years ago I was astonished that the U.S. navy was looking for renewable fuels thinking it would never pan out. Today I see alternatives which has nothing to do with fossils in the private sector. I see heavy transportation companies trying to find ways to electrify their fleet. I think those “grownups” will find themselves in a new reality despite them not wanting to.
And unfeasible? Three years ago maybe. Today we need to revise the time plans. I’m already working at implementing the goals set for 2030 and have started shifting focus towards the big elephant and the 2045 goals.
People who use the term grownup in this context are ironically the most insufferable entitled brats. Just another case of scumbags projecting their own flaws.
the real downside of our governing structure is that long-term projects are unfeasible. when a king/emperor or even a strongman/benevolent despot is in power and they actively set and enforce policy their entire reign, crazy shit can get done - looks towards the Egyptian pyramids or some gothic cathedrals as examples.
Most gothic cathedrals were the result of a very deeply engrained social construct called religion. The cathedral project was in many places not magically run by one despotic figure, instead, it took multiple generations of god-fearing, co-operating people within the strict framework of the religion. They were both built in very strict societies and in societies with something that resembled a precursor of democracy (albeit, only wealthy white men participated of course). They were often financed in a what would today be called a “public private structure” where the cathedral would also serve as the city’s lookout tower to see enemies coming from afar and spot fires before they would become wildspreading troughout the entire city, resulting in both financing by cities and goverments and by traders and by the church itself. If anything, your comment suggests we need an even stronger collective consciousness about climate change, more than anything else.
